> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:49 AM, horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Understood. I'm working on a Pharo Quick Start guide. If it passes muster >> with you guys, you may want to link to it, or incorporate its contents into >> the pharo.org website. > > Sure let us know.
I’m also very interested as I want to give my students a very quick overview so they can use Pharo to manipulate some web/ICT concepts (like client request cycle, request processing). So I planned to do a simple tutorial « for those who know only basic procedural programming ». Actually I will not show the power of OOP. But that is ok for me. I’ll setup a classes so that they can act as a « db » to student and give them some methods (essentially set up a (web) server, and clients). So If you want, I’ll be happy to review your tutorial. And BTW, I see some people complaining about documentation. I repeat myself, but after what I used to know back in 2003-2009… I really can tell the situation has improved a lot !!! Of course this is not perfect but I find it far better. I’ve just seen this LearningOOPWithPharo. This is excellent !!! I’m reading it with a lot of interest. Congrats all and Stephane especially. https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/LearningOOPWithPharo So the situation is far better. MOOC + plenty of booklets. Since I agree a quick beginner guide will be useful. Concerning image comments (class and methods), people often say that writing a comment, a test, a method comment is already an important contribution… and I agree BUT, the process is not easy at all. It is kind of intimidating… It’s for me and I don’t consider myself as a « beginner », more a journeyer. So, I was thinking of something that would be cool and fun to do. The idea would be to have an online image « opened » for contribution online. ie., a kind of wiki image that exposes all the code of a standard image and where we could update class/method comments and eventually create tests. It shouldn’t be difficult to do with Zinc or whatever. Just to avoid crashes or image destruction, it should be limited to simple contributions (comments first then tests maybe). Then, a core dev should be able to manage contributions and push them in official repositories. As a side effect, we would have an (another) updated PharoDoc (~JavaDoc) that is kind of useless but that newcomers always ask for. What do you think ? Useful/useless ? I could give it a shot. Cheers, Cédrick > > >> However, I've stumbled on an odd obstacle: downloading and running the >> Default GNU/Linux zip file. According to the Linux installation page, and I >> quote: >> >> Version 6.1 for several common GNU/Linux configurations. The zip files >> contain everything necessary. Just download and run the executable. For more >> download options, see the sections below. > > ./pharo-ui Pharo61.image & >> >> I am unable to "run the executable" without further explanation. I'm >> guessing that it's missing the Pharo VM, which apparently isn't included in >> the download. > > Why would it be? > > >> >> A newbie looking at this installation page and trying to get started with >> Pharo under Linux would be totally confused and frustrated. Hell, *I'm >> totally confused and frustrated!* > > As you see this can be fixed without losing more time on that. > > >> >> >> >> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote >>> Hi >>> >>> We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super busy. >>> You see we cannot do everything. >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido < >> >>> horrido.hobbies@ >> >>> > wrote: >>>> Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently and >>>> found the documentation wanting. He was expecting a Getting Started guide >>>> at >>>> the pharo.org website and couldn't find one. So he had to blunder around >>>> a >>>> bit. >>>> >>>> I told him he could've looked at "Chapter 2: A quick tour of Pharo" in >>>> the >>>> *Pharo by Example 5* book, but he's right. There ought to be something >>>> obvious at the pharo.org website that helps a newbie get Pharo up and >>>> running, understand how to basically use the Pharo IDE, and write the >>>> standard "Hello World" program. >>>> >>>> I checked out squeak.org and found the same documentation issue! Why is >>>> this??? >>>> >>>> >>>> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote >>>>> Documentation is going well. In fact the stuff that kept me away of >>>>> Squeak, despite of its potential was the lack of documentation. "The >>>>> artifact is the curriculum" was to powerful but too heavy. You need a >>>>> way to understand how to deconstruct and navigate the artifact that is >>>>> usually anchored with the culture you have (books and reading) instead >>>>> of only launching inspectors os browsing the code. Grafoscopio is my >>>>> attempt to fill that gap between the world of objects/simulations and >>>>> the world of scripts/documents. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Offray >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >
