On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard
> coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most
> popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to
> remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to
> have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want
> to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for
> making it easier for you.
>
> Quite an irony , would not agree ?
>
> If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking
> about.
>
> Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to
> share a screenshot ?
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes
>> are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very
>> uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a
>> dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always
>> true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text
>> fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately
>> switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons
>> on the windows.
>>
>> Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had
>> cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my
>> optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my
>> adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate.
>>
>
Eye issues as well. Retinal detachment in both, and cataract on the right
one. Loads of floaters.

Light mode kills them.

Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble.

At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes.

Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to make
them better.
When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, usually
makes things readable.

Phil


>
>> Just my 2p worth
>>
>> Peter Kenny
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf
>> Of stephan
>> Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46
>> To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode
>>
>> On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>> > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference
>> > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same.
>>
>> The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better
>> with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make
>> Pharo6 theme dark default
>>
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>>

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