Also if someone else wants to come and port the content to asteres wiki,
its just markdown with a tons of parsers for it around I am sure it will be
trivial for one that understands how swiki works. Plus markdown is very
simple syntax anyway. I care more about the content, if ones wants to wrap
it around a much better pharo software I certainly would not complain.

For example maybe we can have a wiki tool from inside Pharo image that
gives easy access to my wiki , we have the tools to deal with github repos
already and parsing markdown is rather trivia.

My goal is to take all this unknown documentation like astares wiki, all
these hidden gems and expose them to the users because I think the mailing
list and the web is very easy to hide things or difficult to find them.
This way we can have a main hub that keeps all this content easily
accessible inside a nicely structured table of contents with simple links
and nothing gets lost. In a format that is very easy to contribute, modify
and improve and port to whatever software we want ;)

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:57 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes Torsten wiki is in a very good state and very well made :)
>
> Will definitely link to it and use it as source
>
> As I said , I like to keep this as simple as possible, we are already
> hosted on github for documentation. A wiki there will be easier to find and
> easier to use and easier to maintain.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:20 PM Esteban A. Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In my previous company we ran Swiki served wikis for most of our
>> customers during years of uninterrupted uptime, it has proven to be
>> really stable, and a single image could handle lots of simultaneous
>> users.
>>
>> We ended up moving to Atlassian Confluence because of a better
>> granularity of user permissions and some "enterprisey" features, but
>> we all missed the simplicity of Swiki. To migrate the content from
>> Swiki to Confluence what we did was to implement a crawler/spider that
>> navigated the wiki contents and recreated the pages in the new server
>> (with some replacements because of different syntax).
>>
>> So if Torsten's wiki has lots of contents (I wasn't aware of it), and
>> most people want to move to a new wiki server, we should consider
>> recovering Swiki's content.  It's a fun project as well (if you have
>> the time).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Esteban A. Maringolo
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-20 6:43 GMT-03:00 Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de>:
>> >>> Many seemed to like the idea of a Pharo wiki , I like it too. I
>> created
>> >>> one, can be found here and super easy to contribute to.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoWiki
>> >
>> > I still prefer to have one based on Smalltalk and as there never was an
>> official one
>> > maintain my own private hosted Pharo wiki since 2015
>> >
>> >    http://wiki.astares.com/pharo
>> >
>> > including lots of useful informations.
>> >
>> > It us a Swiki server ("Winterlong" release) - so it is based on Squeak
>> + Comanche.
>> > http://wiki.squeak.org/swiki/
>> >
>> > I once offered it to the community but there were doubts as Swiki is
>> not more
>> > maintained and a Pharo solutions would be preferable.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately there never was a Pharo based wiki implementation
>> although we have all the bits
>> > and pieces (Pillar, Teapot/Tealight, Zinc, ...) to write one.
>> >
>> > I have several swikis running over the years and all of them run very
>> very stable and
>> > without any problems. Even in case of trouble they are easy to repair
>> and extend as the
>> > content is written into XML files.
>> >
>> > Also it has an UNZIP and go concept - so it is easy to install/run and
>> maintain or move
>> > to a different server. Squeak community is running their swiki for
>> years already.
>> > The only problem there is that it is not well maintained and lost of
>> pages are outdated
>> > - but this is a problem independent from the wiki technology used.
>> >
>> > So creating a wiki is quick and easy - be able to maintain up to date
>> infos another issue.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > T.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

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