2017-03-21 7:41 GMT-03:00 Otto Behrens <o...@finworks.biz>:
>> do you have any documentation that summarizes the changes you did. With all 
>> the new mails about magritte and problems it might be time to form a new 
>> group caring about a new implementation of a meta-object layer. I think now 
>> that we have slots the implementation can be made much more powerful than 
>> magritte is today.
>
> +1



>>> We ran into the instance side problem too, and solved that with
>>> prototypes. You need them anyway to get better memento's.
>>>
>> Same here. There are times where it seems cumbersome to use the instance 
>> side descriptions. But the benefits outweigh that problem by far (for me at 
>> least). But I do like the idea that instance _and_ class side descriptions 
>> are taken into account. Feels right at first.
>
> We needed to retain the class side descriptions and hacked the new
> magritte to still do the old class side thing using the
> <magritteDescription> pragma. (ulgy)
>
> This is because we use MAReport with MADescribedColumn a lot. This
> often have to be on the class side because the column applies to all
> the rows in the report. How do you guys to table-like lists of things?
>
> We have an extension to use the descriptions to edit the cells in the
> table as well, for the case where you need to edit various columns in
> a list. The standard MAReport is read only, as I understand it. Do you
> have the requirement to edit tables? And how do you do that?

I don't use it in MAReports, but I define queries based on the
descriptions for instances yet unknown, so the use case is similar.
Currently what I did is an approach similar to how Dolphin Smalltalk
handles its "Aspects", e.g.

Model>>mementoClass
  ^self class mementoClassOfInstances

Model class>>mementoClassOfInstances
  ^MACheckedMemento

And this can be done for almost everything, incluiding building the
description container, ask the instance first, and then the class.

Also, I like the pragmas, but only for "tagging" the description
methods, I prefer lookup and builds based on simple message sends.


Regards,


Esteban A. Maringolo

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