Le 7/9/16 à 08:53, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit :
Hi,
Nice to see more diversity on license choice and projects in this
community. We have the permissive MIT license by default in almost all
Pharo and related project, but seeing GPL and AGPL in projects like
Spec and now Territorial increase the sense of choice and engagement.
No sorry I cannot let you say such stupid statement.
Spec is not GPL. And GPL is really dangerous for image based system. It
is a plague.
We do not want to force nice people (the one that could follow a
license) to have to decide to use another language
just because they do not want to give their work for free.
Open source
Second you do not know what the mess it can be.
In my case as a freelancer, having such licenses as base for the code
of my works has helped me against big institutions that have
aggressive practices regarding "Intelectual Property" and want
everything for them all the time. Even in this community we have seen
some interesting work that can not be contributed back to the
community until the community makes something open by default
(something related Java support comes to mind).
You do not know the story behind. And all Moose is BSD and Pharo
ecosystem is MIT. So you can run away with them and get rich.
Now none of them force people to open source what they are doing
Having a license that enforce reciprocity by default (GPL, AGPL)
instead of "do what you want" ones (MIT, BSD) helps to keep the
commons protected against predatory enclosure,
No it does not protect anything. It binds nice people to act nicely but
does not do anything against assholes. So this is a lose / lose situation.
even if you're a small freelancer and the ones really interested in
such enclosure can still contact the author and pay the extra price
that comes with not reciprocity to the wider community.
You dream. Such license will not protect anyone.
There are millions companies out there using GPL code and not opening
their work.
Any code in GPL will not be considered for anything in our community.
Thanks Hernán,
Offray
On 07/09/16 06:48, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
In Tiki, there has been such discussions as well.
https://tiki.org/License
But yeah, MIT license is the best thing :-)
Phil
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Hernán Morales Durand
<hernan.mora...@gmail.com <mailto:hernan.mora...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I thought for a while about the license.
Fixing the ASP loophole means trying to escape from companies
using a trick to avoid returning changes to the code back to the
community[1]. I agree with such position. GNU AGPL is free,
copyleft, approved by OSI, FSF, and used by successful projects :
MongoDB, SugarCRM, OTRS, etc. If anyone want to discuss
collaboration or re-licensing, for example to monetize library
services, feel free to contact me privately.
Hernán
[1]
http://www.fabcapo.com/2008/02/we-have-submitted-agpl-to-osi.html
<http://www.fabcapo.com/2008/02/we-have-submitted-agpl-to-osi.html>
2016-09-06 18:03 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com
<mailto:tu...@tudorgirba.com>>:
Hi Hernán,
I believe Stef was asking about the choice of picking a viral
license vs the permissive MIT one that we use in code that
gets into Pharo (and several other larger related projects).
Cheers,
Doru
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand
<hernan.mora...@gmail.com <mailto:hernan.mora...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>
> Hi Stef,
>
> I used the License Differentiator tool at
http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/
<http://oss-watch.ac.uk/apps/licdiff/>
>
> I like it because it fixes the 'ASP (application service
provider) loophole' or 'privacy loophole' problem (See Choice
Six in the tool)
>
> Hernán
>
>
> 2016-09-06 16:47 GMT-03:00 stepharo <steph...@free.fr
<mailto:steph...@free.fr>>:
> Hi hernan
>
> why do you picked AGPL? We try to protect our community
against license hell.
> Stef
> Le 6/9/16 à 11:40, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Stephan,
>>
>> 2016-09-06 2:52 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont
<step...@stack.nl <mailto:step...@stack.nl>>:
>> On 06/09/16 06:24, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>
>> I am happy to announce the release of Territorial, a new
Smalltalk
>> library for Geographical Information Retrieval in
geopolitical objects.
>>
>> Nice. Please tell us about your license choice
>>
>>
>> License of the library is AGPL v3 (it is in the Notes and
disclaimers of the manual)
>> License of the documentation is CC BY-SA 3.0
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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