Hello,

it is true: http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/persistency

Thank You very much.
Adam

Dne Po 28. září 2015 08:50:28, stepharo napsal(a):
> If I'm correct we wrote about it on the seaside book
> http://book.seaside.st
> 
> Le 27/9/15 20:23, Adam a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > thank You for great hints. I will look at this.
> > 
> > Have a nice day,
> > 
> > Adam.
> > 
> > Dne Ne 27. září 2015 19:16:10, p...@highoctane.be napsal(a):
> >> Adam,
> >> 
> >> SandstoneDb may be of interest to you:
> >> 
> >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~gnaritas/SandstoneDb
> >> "SandstoneDb is a lightweight Prevayler style embedded object database
> >> with
> >> an ActiveRecord API that doesn't require a command pattern and works for
> >> small apps that a single Squeak image can handle. The idea is to make a
> >> Squeak image durable and crash proof and suitable for use in small office
> >> applications.
> >> 
> >> Data is kept in ram for speed and on disk for safety. All data is
> >> reloaded
> >> from disk on image startup.
> >> 
> >> Since we're dealing with live objects in memory, concurrency is handled
> >> via
> >> optional record level critical sections rather than optimistic locking
> >> and
> >> commit failures. It's up to the developer to use critical sections at the
> >> appropriate points by using the critical method on the record.
> >> 
> >> Saves are atomic for an ActiveRecord and all its non ActiveRecord
> >> children,
> >> for example, an order and its items. There is no atomic save across
> >> multiple ActiveRecords. A record is a cluster of objects that are stored
> >> in
> >> a single file together.
> >> 
> >> After installing SandstoneDb make sure to restart your image before
> >> attempting to use it or running the tests."
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fuel may also have something in stock:
> >> 
> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/EnterprisePharoBook
> >> /la stSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/Fuel/Fuel.pdf
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I also use Mapless
> >> 
> >> http://sebastianconcept.github.io/Mapless/
> >> 
> >> 
> >> HTH
> >> 
> >> Phil
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Adam <a...@234.cz> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> I was wondering if it is possible for Pharo to load lots of data and
> >>> query
> >>> them without using external DB, just using object memory. Well, someting
> >>> like
> >>> GemStone/S, but not so sophisticated.
> >>> 
> >>> I did some research so here is details what I found. I would appreciate
> >>> if
> >>> someone can tell me if any points of this agenda can be allready done or
> >>> need
> >>> to be programmed, or if this whole idea is waste of time and it is
> >>> better
> >>> to
> >>> use external DB.
> >>> 
> >>> 1) Object memory limit: Current object memory of Pharo is limited to
> >>> 4GB.
> >>> Free
> >>> version of GemStone/S is also limited to 4GB, so I would rather stick
> >>> with
> >>> Pharo until I reach this level. And in the future this limit grow due to
> >>> 64bit
> >>> version of VM.
> >>> 2) Saving to disk: Is it possible to save object or group of objects to
> >>> disk
> >>> and ensure consistency? With some transaction mechanism and transaction
> >>> log?
> >>> 3) RAM limit: Is it possible to delete objects from memory, move them to
> >>> the
> >>> disk and not break its connections to other objects? For example by
> >>> redirecting object internal ID to some kind of hollow object, that will
> >>> renew
> >>> receiver of message from disk if necessary... This approach can also
> >>> possibly
> >>> split object memory into more "remote" sources.
> >>> 4) Indexing: What optimalization for searching current collections in
> >>> Pharo
> >>> do? For example: how to store instances of City if I would like to
> >>> search
> >>> through it by name and also by its postal code? Is there some library
> >>> for
> >>> creating fulltext search (maybe Spotter uses that - I did not study it
> >>> yet).
> >>> 
> >>> Have a nice day, and thanks for any answer.
> >>> 
> >>> Adam


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