Re: [Pharo-users] challenges

[Ben Coman]

p...@highoctane.be wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote: Ben Coman schreef op 31-3-2014 18:30: Roelof Wobben wrote: Hello, I almost get book 1 ready. Now I wonder if there are challenges so I can practise more in Smaltalk. I know I learn the best by doing things and not just read about it. I like the most if the challenges can start at simple and get more complex . As example what I mean is 99 prolog/python problems Roelof I'm not aware of anything similar.  It does look interesting and probably something that should be looked into further. Alternatively, sorry its not a challenge, but as a next step I highly recommend LaserGame tutorial http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ for which you'll should Squeak 3.9 (a predecessor to Pharo) http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/ The great thing with this is it leads you through a uniquely Smalltalk approach to developing that is colloquially known as "developing from within the debugger" and it shows how to use Smalltalk facilities to refactor code as the design evolves. From the tutorial "Every step of the process is described in detail. Even when I made mistakes. The idea here is to show how natural it is to iterate over design and implementation and the confidence that builds with test driven development." This tutorial is one of the things that really hooked me into Smalltalk. cheers -ben Thanks, this looks very interresting. And I think at first glance it can be done on Pharo also. Similar to the PBE book, I would strongly encourage you to use the image matching the tutorial.  Its not about learning a particular version of Pharo.  Its about learning the underlying concepts and development _style_ which make Smalltalk unique and great.  These transfer easily between versions but many programmers from other languages initially struggle until that lightbulb moment - which is why it is very worthwhile to learn Smalltalk even if you end up programming another language for your day job.  cheers, Ben If I have enough knowlegde Im thinking about tryimg to make a sort of repo-browser for the linux distro I work on. But that will take a long time before I am at that point. Roelof If you want to stretch the envelope, get a copy of this one: http://www.lulu.com/shop/andres-valloud/a-mentoring-course-on-smalltalk/paperback/product-3788890.html And make the exercises... You'll not be the same afterwards. +1 Phil