On 31 Mar 2014, at 20:01, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: > That book is too advanced I think. > > That set of Andrès books sure made my head hurt. > > Like in: Read a couple pages. Feel dizzy. Re-read. Code. Think. Grok. Go for > more. > > But every section has very practical uses.
Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent book, well worth the read, but I think it is most useful when you already have a decent basis. I found it one of the best, if not the best book about programming I ever read. > Phil > > > On 31 Mar 2014, at 19:07, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote: > > Ben Coman schreef op 31-3-2014 18:30: > > Roelof Wobben wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I almost get book 1 ready. > > > > Now I wonder if there are challenges so I can practise more in Smaltalk. > > I know I learn the best by doing things and not just read about it. > > > > I like the most if the challenges can start at simple and get more complex . > > > > As example what I mean is 99 prolog/python problems > > > > Roelof > > > > > > > > I'm not aware of anything similar. It does look interesting and probably > > something that should be looked into further. > > > > Alternatively, sorry its not a challenge, but as a next step I highly > > recommend LaserGame tutorial > > http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ > > > > for which you'll should Squeak 3.9 (a predecessor to Pharo) > > http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/ > > > > The great thing with this is it leads you through a uniquely Smalltalk > > approach to developing that is colloquially known as "developing from > > within the debugger" and it shows how to use Smalltalk facilities to > > refactor code as the design evolves. From the tutorial "Every step of the > > process is described in detail. Even when I made mistakes. The idea here is > > to show how natural it is to iterate over design and implementation and the > > confidence that builds with test driven development." > > > > This tutorial is one of the things that really hooked me into Smalltalk. > > > > cheers -ben > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, this looks very interresting. And I think at first glance it can be > > done on Pharo also. > > > > If I have enough knowlegde Im thinking about tryimg to make a sort of > > repo-browser for the linux distro I work on. > > But that will take a long time before I am at that point. > > > > Roelof > > > > If you want to stretch the envelope, get a copy of this one: > > > > http://www.lulu.com/shop/andres-valloud/a-mentoring-course-on-smalltalk/paperback/product-3788890.html > > > > And make the exercises... > > > > You'll not be the same afterwards. > > > > Phil > > > > > >
