To pick up Pettus's point: filtering out precisely and only the noise is hard.  Maybe in a couple more decades we'll be there.  (Sorry I won't be around for it.) For now ignoring it might be the best option.

On 1/15/21 11:43 PM, Hemil Ruparel wrote:
Exactly my point. We need to raise the bar of the behavior we tolerate. This should not be tolerated. We need to set an example. The person in question clearly understood english and I have never seen a person who could use mailing lists but not google. So that's out of the question.

We are not free consultants. And you are not entitled to shit. You are probably being paid to work on that project. We are not. Your problem. Fix it yourself. Or at least have to courtesy to google it.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 12:06 PM Rob Sargent <robjsarg...@gmail.com <mailto:robjsarg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I watched this sadness play out.  It had nothing to do with the
    OP's original question.  Rather someone with feelings hurt from a
    separate thread (table correlation) felt the need drag that
    squabble over to the focal issue here (tools).  I was tempted
    bring up the COC but I'm not really a believer.

    We see these flare ups almost as frequently as the repetition of
    the "tune pg tool" request.  They die out pretty quickly
    especially when an obvious expert declines to waste any more of
    the offender's (offended's) time.


    On 1/15/21 10:51 PM, Hemil Ruparel wrote:
    This is a meta discussion. I couldn't find a meta mailing list
    <https://www.postgresql.org/list/>so I am posting it here. This
    discussion sparked from this message
    
<https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/937655834.1614113.1610725029...@mail.yahoo.com>.


    We should clearly mention on the postgres mailing list page
    <https://www.postgresql.org/list/> that people are encouraged to
    do their own research and that we are a community of people who
    help for free. And so we expect OP to do basic initial research.
    And the OP is not entitled to receive an answer as we are not
    bound by any contract. We spend our personal time away from our
    busy schedule to help others and we have the right to choose who
    we give our time to.

    Another important point is we need a mechanism to prevent
    polluting our community. We need to raise the bar a little. Or we
    become like quora. Where the same question is posted thousands of
    times with the exact same wording. Stack Exchange has taken it to
    the extreme to the point that it's become toxic for newbies. We
    need to be somewhere in between. I propose when the first time
    someone posts such a question, we give them the benefit of doubt
    and point them to resources which they should consider before
    posting. Second time, we warn them not to do this again and use
    the resources they have at their disposal. The third time we
    should temporarily ban them (say for a week).

    It's my personal opinion. But i personally do not want to deal
    with entitled people who cannot do basic google searches.




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