To pick up Pettus's point: filtering out precisely and only the noise is
hard. Maybe in a couple more decades we'll be there. (Sorry I won't be
around for it.) For now ignoring it might be the best option.
On 1/15/21 11:43 PM, Hemil Ruparel wrote:
Exactly my point. We need to raise the bar of the behavior we
tolerate. This should not be tolerated. We need to set an example. The
person in question clearly understood english and I have never seen a
person who could use mailing lists but not google. So that's out of
the question.
We are not free consultants. And you are not entitled to shit. You are
probably being paid to work on that project. We are not. Your problem.
Fix it yourself. Or at least have to courtesy to google it.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 12:06 PM Rob Sargent <robjsarg...@gmail.com
<mailto:robjsarg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I watched this sadness play out. It had nothing to do with the
OP's original question. Rather someone with feelings hurt from a
separate thread (table correlation) felt the need drag that
squabble over to the focal issue here (tools). I was tempted
bring up the COC but I'm not really a believer.
We see these flare ups almost as frequently as the repetition of
the "tune pg tool" request. They die out pretty quickly
especially when an obvious expert declines to waste any more of
the offender's (offended's) time.
On 1/15/21 10:51 PM, Hemil Ruparel wrote:
This is a meta discussion. I couldn't find a meta mailing list
<https://www.postgresql.org/list/>so I am posting it here. This
discussion sparked from this message
<https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/937655834.1614113.1610725029...@mail.yahoo.com>.
We should clearly mention on the postgres mailing list page
<https://www.postgresql.org/list/> that people are encouraged to
do their own research and that we are a community of people who
help for free. And so we expect OP to do basic initial research.
And the OP is not entitled to receive an answer as we are not
bound by any contract. We spend our personal time away from our
busy schedule to help others and we have the right to choose who
we give our time to.
Another important point is we need a mechanism to prevent
polluting our community. We need to raise the bar a little. Or we
become like quora. Where the same question is posted thousands of
times with the exact same wording. Stack Exchange has taken it to
the extreme to the point that it's become toxic for newbies. We
need to be somewhere in between. I propose when the first time
someone posts such a question, we give them the benefit of doubt
and point them to resources which they should consider before
posting. Second time, we warn them not to do this again and use
the resources they have at their disposal. The third time we
should temporarily ban them (say for a week).
It's my personal opinion. But i personally do not want to deal
with entitled people who cannot do basic google searches.