Nicely put Tom!
Gretchen
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Date: Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [PestList] eagle claw damage
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Group -
Just so the group knows, I have been working with museums, historic house
museums, libraries, archives, and private collections all over the world for
over 40 years.
What most museum personnel don't realize is most display and storage cases
actually have a void of about 4 inches beneath them where all sorts of detritus
accumulates. It is in these dark recesses where infestations often originate.
In order to prevent infestations in these dark voids, I have been successful by
drilling a couple of small holes in the kick plate and injecting powdered
silica gel dust beneath the cabinetry. This method gives years of prevention
and control of any critter beneath the cabinetry. Carpet beetles, silverfish,
clothes moths, and any other type of crawling insect will be desiccated by the
silica gel.
Tom Parker
Entomologist
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From: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org>
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Subject: Re: [PestList] eagle claw damage
Sounds like good resolve. Make sure you check on top of case and underneath it
as well as nearby ones....although I am sure you probably already have. Things
like these when they crop up are good exercises and reminders for deep cleaning
and crawling around with a flashlight inspections. Thanks for sharing the
update it is really helpful for people to understand the full process. Getting
to see/read about best practices in real life situations working makes for
great learning. JTV
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I’m no expert but I would have said carpet beetle larvae - possibly two spot
carpet beetle variation??
Vikki
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wrote:
The shed skin in the photo is definitely that of a larval carpet beetle.
Tom Parker
On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Jodi Lundgren
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wrote:
Hey all,
Just wanted to give you an update. We’re definitely freezing. I was able to
thoroughly inspect the object today and found several larvae sheddings.
Several were in the thin fluff feathers that still remained at the base of the
claw where it attaches to the wood rod under the beaded band. I was able to
tease them out from under the beads with tweezers and spatulas. There is
definitely an entry hole in the claw itself. No active/live bugs found or eggs
that I could see. But we’re in the freezer now to hopefully take care of
anything that may remain. Thankfully there was just pottery in the case with
it so it doesn’t look like anything spread to other objects. Those and the
case have been cleaned.
Can anyone tell me with certainty whether this is a carpet beetle or something
else? I’m hoping that the 20221019_103149_crop jpeg might help with
identification.
Thanks for all your advice!
Jodi
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Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage
Personally (and others may disagree and should speak up) I would go for it and
freeze it. There's no telling what is going on under the beads and there's
probably still activity in the claw itself. I'm thinking that this should
freeze just fine.
I would also pull up the fabric in the case and see if you have any activity
under there. If there are any other objects nearby, inspect them closely as
well.
Alan
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:03 PM Jodi Lundgren
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I don’t think we can remove the claw. Here are some images of the composite
object. No feathers. It has the claw and wood at the core and is wrapped with
beadwork with leather fringes at the end and ribbon details up by the claw.
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Could this object be freeze-treated as a whole object?
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We have found a bore hole into the claw. I don’t have an image just yet but
it’s a pretty clear, irregular hole bored into it. Attached is an image of the
bug we found—about the size of the hole. Another group member thought there
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Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw
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Jodi -
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Carpet beetle excrement (frass). If there are feathers, closely examine them
for larvae. If you are certain no larvae are feeding on the feathers, then
proceed as follows: If you can remove the claw, you can safely freeze it to
insure no further damage. Recommended -20 F for 3 days, then allow it to
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From: Jodi Lundgren
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Subject: [PestList] FW: eagle claw
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We have a ceremonial wand on display with an eagle claw in it. This past week
we discovered a bit of debris under a section of it. Some bits are larger and
irregularly sized and look like bits of the claw’s skin/scales that were
losses. There is also a very small yellowish white particulate that has a very
regular size and shape to the particles. We lightly brushed the claw off and
more of this fell to the Mylar we were collecting it on. The claw is still on
display after sweeping up the debris. It seems stable and we don’t see any
additional particles loosed from it or created otherwise over the
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Image is attached. We don’t have a microscope so I did the best I could to
capture this. We found no bugs in the case when we first saw the bits but a
day or two later when we went to remove and examine it we saw a small
unidentified black bug and some small wings in the case. No new debris was
found though. These particles are really small, in the 1/10 millimeter size
perhaps.
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This is outside of my realm of expertise. If anyone has experience with the
preservation of eagle claws and what may be going on here I’d love your
opinion. Is it an insect infestation (frass)? Is there a preservative issue
we need to contend with (could this be arsenic?!?)? What should I do? It has
been stable for days and we are monitoring it daily
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