Group - Just so the group knows, I have been working with museums, historic house museums, libraries, archives, and private collections all over the world for over 40 years. What most museum personnel don't realize is most display and storage cases actually have a void of about 4 inches beneath them where all sorts of detritus accumulates. It is in these dark recesses where infestations often originate. In order to prevent infestations in these dark voids, I have been successful by drilling a couple of small holes in the kick plate and injecting powdered silica gel dust beneath the cabinetry. This method gives years of prevention and control of any critter beneath the cabinetry. Carpet beetles, silverfish, clothes moths, and any other type of crawling insect will be desiccated by the silica gel. Tom ParkerEntomologist
-----Original Message----- From: Voron, Joel <jvo...@cwf.org> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2022 8:00 am Subject: Re: [PestList] eagle claw damage Sounds like good resolve. Make sure you check on top of case and underneath it as well as nearby ones....although I am sure you probably already have. Things like these when they crop up are good exercises and reminders for deep cleaning and crawling around with a flashlight inspections. Thanks for sharing the update it is really helpful for people to understand the full process. Getting to see/read about best practices in real life situations working makes for great learning. JTV Joel Voron Colonial Williamsburg Foundation Conservation Dept. Integrated Pest Management Specialist Office 757-220-7080 Cell 757-634-1175 E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org ________________________________________ From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Victoria McCartney <vikkimccart...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 6:10 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PestList] eagle claw damage [CAUTION: This message originated from outside the Foundation. Do not click links, open attachments or take action unless you know the contents are safe] I’m no expert but I would have said carpet beetle larvae - possibly two spot carpet beetle variation?? Vikki On 19 Oct 2022, at 23:08, 'Thomas Parker' via MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> wrote: The shed skin in the photo is definitely that of a larval carpet beetle. Tom Parker On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org<mailto:jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org>> wrote: Hey all, Just wanted to give you an update. We’re definitely freezing. I was able to thoroughly inspect the object today and found several larvae sheddings. Several were in the thin fluff feathers that still remained at the base of the claw where it attaches to the wood rod under the beaded band. I was able to tease them out from under the beads with tweezers and spatulas. There is definitely an entry hole in the claw itself. No active/live bugs found or eggs that I could see. But we’re in the freezer now to hopefully take care of anything that may remain. Thankfully there was just pottery in the case with it so it doesn’t look like anything spread to other objects. Those and the case have been cleaned. Can anyone tell me with certainty whether this is a carpet beetle or something else? I’m hoping that the 20221019_103149_crop jpeg might help with identification. Thanks for all your advice! Jodi From: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> <pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan P Van Dyke Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 12:15 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com<mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage Personally (and others may disagree and should speak up) I would go for it and freeze it. There's no telling what is going on under the beads and there's probably still activity in the claw itself. I'm thinking that this should freeze just fine. I would also pull up the fabric in the case and see if you have any activity under there. If there are any other objects nearby, inspect them closely as well. 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Here are some images of the composite object. No feathers. It has the claw and wood at the core and is wrapped with beadwork with leather fringes at the end and ribbon details up by the claw. <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> Could this object be freeze-treated as a whole object? <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> We have found a bore hole into the claw. I don’t have an image just yet but it’s a pretty clear, irregular hole bored into it. Attached is an image of the bug we found—about the size of the hole. Another group member thought there might be some larvae and those images are attached too.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388583035%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RJglHR26prBIpdBrth69GNpbmLwtlLDqkvJko%2Bqqq2c%3D&reserved=0> Freezing recommendations for this object?<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388739292%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2XGwu%2FS4Wo14GTHTnzOmxLe5FLcjMjNYzA136SB%2Bus0%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> Thanks,<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> Jodi<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> From: 'bugman22' via MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 4:37 PM To: pestlist@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> Jodi - <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> Carpet beetle excrement (frass). If there are feathers, closely examine them for larvae. If you are certain no larvae are feeding on the feathers, then proceed as follows: If you can remove the claw, you can safely freeze it to insure no further damage. Recommended -20 F for 3 days, then allow it to acclimate to room temperature slowly.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> Tom Parker<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142388895510%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Lx5%2BOA3s1mVXl%2BqHaknYNbSgYzGCVlQvy%2FXdxwP9WPk%3D&reserved=0> -----Original Message----- From: Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 6:27 pm Subject: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142389051756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SY9IwSK75VBc3VbuBMjia4Qt6gPKSmh5QkGGkRQHwDc%3D&reserved=0> Hello all,<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142389051756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SY9IwSK75VBc3VbuBMjia4Qt6gPKSmh5QkGGkRQHwDc%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142389051756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SY9IwSK75VBc3VbuBMjia4Qt6gPKSmh5QkGGkRQHwDc%3D&reserved=0> We have a ceremonial wand on display with an eagle claw in it. This past week we discovered a bit of debris under a section of it. Some bits are larger and irregularly sized and look like bits of the claw’s skin/scales that were losses. There is also a very small yellowish white particulate that has a very regular size and shape to the particles. We lightly brushed the claw off and more of this fell to the Mylar we were collecting it on. The claw is still on display after sweeping up the debris. It seems stable and we don’t see any additional particles loosed from it or created otherwise over the weekend.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142389051756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SY9IwSK75VBc3VbuBMjia4Qt6gPKSmh5QkGGkRQHwDc%3D&reserved=0> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrc.utexas.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjvoron%40cwf.org%7C5a965a2e7d78486b1c2008dab21ebd33%7Ce5987f962bd0460084448a217767e8ba%7C0%7C0%7C638018142389051756%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SY9IwSK75VBc3VbuBMjia4Qt6gPKSmh5QkGGkRQHwDc%3D&reserved=0> Image is attached. We don’t have a microscope so I did the best I could to capture this. We found no bugs in the case when we first saw the bits but a day or two later when we went to remove and examine it we saw a small unidentified black bug and some small wings in the case. No new debris was found though. 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If anyone has experience with the preservation of eagle claws and what may be going on here I’d love your opinion. Is it an insect infestation (frass)? Is there a preservative issue we need to contend with (could this be arsenic?!?)? What should I do? 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