I’m no expert but I would have said carpet beetle larvae - possibly two spot carpet beetle variation??
Vikki > On 19 Oct 2022, at 23:08, 'Thomas Parker' via MuseumPests > <pestlist@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The shed skin in the photo is definitely that of a larval carpet beetle. > Tom Parker > >> On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> Just wanted to give you an update. We’re definitely freezing. I was able >> to thoroughly inspect the object today and found several larvae sheddings. >> Several were in the thin fluff feathers that still remained at the base of >> the claw where it attaches to the wood rod under the beaded band. I was >> able to tease them out from under the beads with tweezers and spatulas. >> There is definitely an entry hole in the claw itself. No active/live bugs >> found or eggs that I could see. But we’re in the freezer now to hopefully >> take care of anything that may remain. Thankfully there was just pottery in >> the case with it so it doesn’t look like anything spread to other objects. >> Those and the case have been cleaned. >> >> Can anyone tell me with certainty whether this is a carpet beetle or >> something else? I’m hoping that the 20221019_103149_crop jpeg might help >> with identification. >> >> Thanks for all your advice! >> >> Jodi >> >> From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Alan P Van Dyke >> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 12:15 PM >> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage >> >> Personally (and others may disagree and should speak up) I would go for it >> and freeze it. There's no telling what is going on under the beads and >> there's probably still activity in the claw itself. I'm thinking that this >> should freeze just fine. >> >> I would also pull up the fabric in the case and see if you have any activity >> under there. If there are any other objects nearby, inspect them closely as >> well. >> >> Alan >> >> Alan Van Dyke, Senior Preservation Technician >> Harry Ransom Center <http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> The University of Texas at Austin <http://www.utexas.edu/> >> P.O. Drawer 7219 >> Austin, Texas 78713-7219 >> P: 512-232-4614 >> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:03 PM Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> >> wrote: <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> I don’t think we can remove the claw. Here are some images of the composite >> object. No feathers. It has the claw and wood at the core and is wrapped >> with beadwork with leather fringes at the end and ribbon details up by the >> claw. <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Could this object be freeze-treated as a whole object? >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> We have found a bore hole into the claw. I don’t have an image just yet but >> it’s a pretty clear, irregular hole bored into it. Attached is an image of >> the bug we found—about the size of the hole. Another group member thought >> there might be some larvae and those images are attached too. >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Freezing recommendations for this object? <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Thanks, <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Jodi <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> From: 'bugman22' via MuseumPests <pestlist@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 4:37 PM >> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Jodi - <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Carpet beetle excrement (frass). If there are feathers, closely examine >> them for larvae. If you are certain no larvae are feeding on the feathers, >> then proceed as follows: If you can remove the claw, you can safely freeze >> it to insure no further damage. Recommended -20 F for 3 days, then allow it >> to acclimate to room temperature slowly. <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Tom Parker <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> >> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2022 6:27 pm >> Subject: [PestList] FW: eagle claw damage <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Hello all, <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> We have a ceremonial wand on display with an eagle claw in it. This past >> week we discovered a bit of debris under a section of it. Some bits are >> larger and irregularly sized and look like bits of the claw’s skin/scales >> that were losses. There is also a very small yellowish white particulate >> that has a very regular size and shape to the particles. We lightly brushed >> the claw off and more of this fell to the Mylar we were collecting it on. >> The claw is still on display after sweeping up the debris. It seems stable >> and we don’t see any additional particles loosed from it or created >> otherwise over the weekend. <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> Image is attached. We don’t have a microscope so I did the best I could to >> capture this. We found no bugs in the case when we first saw the bits but a >> day or two later when we went to remove and examine it we saw a small >> unidentified black bug and some small wings in the case. No new debris was >> found though. These particles are really small, in the 1/10 millimeter size >> perhaps. <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> <https://www.hrc.utexas.edu/> >> This is outside of my realm of expertise. If anyone has experience with the >> preservation of eagle claws and what may be going on here I’d love your >> opinion. Is it an insect infestation (frass)? Is there a preservative >> issue we need to contend with (could this be arsenic?!?)? 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