yaphet jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >>John Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>As someone else said before me, Perl should not be changed
> >>Just Because We Can. Aspects which have proven usefulness and
> >>are deeply engrained in the Perl mindset should not be tampered
> >>with just because some recent convert finds them un-Algol-like.
>
> yet another _example_ of perl's "expert vs. newbie" snobbery.
>
> the "perl mindset": it's what's now driving perl toward the unix
> programming language "dustbin"...by driving "newbies" away.
This was a feature of Perl 5, and I have been and remain one of its most
vocal antagonists. However, I have noted a particular absence of it in
Perl 6 so far. "Social Reform" has been discussed as an important goal of
the next generation of this language, as important in the view of some,
myself included, as any enhancements in the language itself.
> the tchrist (christiansen) said it best, when he described perl5:
> >>>...an "expert-friendly" language...
Tom is, from what I have been told, universally recognized as the epitome
of Perl snobbery. However, he doesn't limit his constipated moanings to
Perl: he seems to think that only people doing his work on his OS on his
platform on his machine with his keyboard is a moron. His attitude and
behavior has long been the butt of both jokes and scorn. However, his
should not be taken as a generalized example posture and attitude of the
community.
Perhaps you should be addressing the Perl 5 Porters instead.
p
