anonymous troll wrote:
> John Porter wrote:
> > Unfortunately, to the two optimizations are mostly disjoint.
> 
> this is completely false when applied to real programming languages.

Oh?


> => example 1:  php
>      .   less cryptic (but more verbose)

more verbose == not optimized for the expert.


>      .   tight integration to databases (mySQL)

Convenient for some people, but bothersome for experts,
who tend to like generality.


> => example 2: ruby

=> Perplexed by its own idiosyncracies that in the end make it
no more attractive than Perl.


> => now more popular than python in its native japan
> => now in us and europe - where it will displace perl and python...  ;-)

Even if true, what does it say about what experts like in their
languages?  (Hint: nothing.)


> you need a new language designer(s), not tired-out god-figures.

If Perl succeeds or fails, it won't be on the basis of the 
deification of its creator.  That's simply a (stupid) strawman argument.
Can't you do any better?  It's getting rather tired.

-- 
John Porter

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