From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 12:54:26PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote:
> > Everyone seems to have their favorite laundry list of the
> > failings of C, and an accompanying list of complex and/or
> > fragile solutions.
>
> I'm coming to the rapid conclusion that C-- is yours.
;) It is more of a "wasn't there some neat new thing-a-ma-jig people were
talking about". I'm sure you won't be surprised by this, but I recall John
Porter as being a C-- fan. Now why is he being mysteriously silent?
> (complicated and fragile solution.) While Simon Peyton Jones
> is a storming guy and I appreciate his work a lot, I don't
> think that C-- is the answer for Perl.
Fair enough.
> C-- doesn't have varargs.
Is that a show-stopper?
> Or a decent, fast, portable implementation.
But it is possible there will be one before there will be a Perl 6. And if
people are seriously considering re-inventing wheels in C... -Of course
adoption of an immature technology is definitely a recipe for missing time
schedules, and probably for other disasters.
> And we'd all have to learn C--.
Would we? Or would it be possible to use a mix of C--, C, and/or C++? Would
that result in a Frankenstein's monster or best of breed mutt?
> It's a good idea, but it really Isn't There Yet.
Fair enough... I don't know enough to evaluate C-- or whether or not there
are ideas in there that should be co-opted. I just wanted to mention it, as
short-comings of C/C++ and platform dependence have been a recent topic. I
don't know enough to debate the pro's and con's, but figure that other
interested persons might. Of course that assumes there are other interested
persons.
That said, the C-- folks appear to have been working on just these problems
for years... and might have ideas that can be borrowed even without jumping
on the bandwagon.
This is the point where I have to duck out of the thread... as I don't have
much more to contribute. My stack o' personal reading list books will take
at least another 3-5 years before I'll know enough to contribute much more
than collection and regurgitation of other people's ideas.
Garrett
