Jason King <ja...@ansipunx.net> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
> <bren...@sun.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 08:09:52PM +0000, Peter Tribble wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
>>> <bren...@sun.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > No.  Stop.  Do not assume any data is better than no data.  Wrong or 
>>> > misleading
>>> > data is *worse* than no data.
>>>
>>> Well, that's not *entirely* true. Senior management isn't satisfied
>>> with no data,
>>> and prefer simplistic data that they're familiar with - even if we
>>> know that it's
>>> wrong or misleading.
>>
>> I think the problem here is one of thinking like an end-user, rather than
>> an engineer.  In OpenSolaris, we can engineer whatever is needed - we don't
>> need to make-do with what engineers give us - we are the engineers.
>
> I would like the think that, all the (summarized) 'never use any
> kstats -- those are private' emails I'm getting off list, as well as
> past reactions I've seen seem to suggest otherwise (not that I'm
> really going to let it stop things -- I'd rather have a good tool,
> even if it has to be unbundled because *gasp* it might happen to use
> say 20 different kstats and Sun won't allow something that uses kstats
> that they didn't write to be putback in any consolidation).

I think this has to be based on a misunderstanding on somebody's part,
though I don't know whose.

The above is just not how the interface taxonomy works (not least
because authorship means absolutely nothing in that regard).

-- Rich
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