On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
<bren...@sun.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 08:09:52PM +0000, Peter Tribble wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
>> <bren...@sun.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > No.  Stop.  Do not assume any data is better than no data.  Wrong or 
>> > misleading
>> > data is *worse* than no data.
>>
>> Well, that's not *entirely* true. Senior management isn't satisfied
>> with no data,
>> and prefer simplistic data that they're familiar with - even if we
>> know that it's
>> wrong or misleading.
>
> I think the problem here is one of thinking like an end-user, rather than
> an engineer.  In OpenSolaris, we can engineer whatever is needed - we don't
> need to make-do with what engineers give us - we are the engineers.

I would like the think that, all the (summarized) 'never use any
kstats -- those are private' emails I'm getting off list, as well as
past reactions I've seen seem to suggest otherwise (not that I'm
really going to let it stop things -- I'd rather have a good tool,
even if it has to be unbundled because *gasp* it might happen to use
say 20 different kstats and Sun won't allow something that uses kstats
that they didn't write to be putback in any consolidation).
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