The two Viet Nam images are clearly different exposures; the angle of the boy's head is different as is his expression. The images were taken from slightly different angles, as evidenced by the position of the boy's head relative to the palm tree behind him.
The three polar bear images still look identical to me. There may have been some editing of the irregularities on the ice or snow, but the postures of the bears are identical, and the angles from which they were shot are identical. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 5:22 PM Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote: > The Mangelson and the Ward are clearly the same frame. The Leesons' shot > is a different frame, you can tell my lining up the foreground with bits > and pieces of the background. I would put it down to two cameras side by > side, or misattribution, rather than to plagiarism. > > There is a famous pair of photos taken at the same moment in Vietnam by > Philip Jones-Griffiths and Tim Page that shows an example of something like > this, and I'm sure there must be many others from photographers travelling > in packs. > > This is an unpleasant image: > Page: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/13476480@N07/29749724063 > P J-G: > > https://mediastore3.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR2/b/2/1/0/NYC36062.jpg > > In fact, another good example is the stills of the 'tank man' of Tiananmen > Square, for which Stuart Franklin won a World Press award, but other > photographers on the same hotel balcony got much the same shot, with only > minor differences. > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 20:34, ann sanfedele <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > The Polar Bear Saga... My gallery first - scroll right after viewing the > typtyich .. the last photo is the flipped version Bob found. > > THis is the first image in my gallery - to show you the screen shots I got > side by side > > https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/THE-THREE-BEARS-a-puzzlement/i-b89K7LG/XL > > here is the link to the photo on Mangelsen's web page, followed by the > other two found by John and Bob W > > Ken got me to .... > https://www.mangelsen.com/winter-solace-2446.html > > Bob's find : > http://www.artsandartists.org/exhibitions/past-endangeredtreasures/ > > John found > > https://fineartamerica.com/featured/polar-bear-family-thomas-and-pat-leeson.html > (where I took the screen shot from - I did all the wrok on that before > seeing the link to the web page :-)) > > and , from the leeson's web page tinyurled for us. > https://tinyurl.com/anns-bears > > > I really feel the other two photographers were given permission to market > these , or in the csae of Ward maybe a simple misattribution on the web, or > they are simply ripping off Mangelsens work. Is it possible they all > three were at that spot at the same time??? Something just aint right. > > ann > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
