P.S. Looking at the two images you posted , they are photos of the same
newsworthy awful event, but quite different... the Page being much less
powerful than the Jones-Griffiths who captured the agony on the child's
face ... a striking difference even if they were taken from roughly the
same angle, something being dictated by their surroundings..
ann
On 12/23/2018 5:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
The Mangelson and the Ward are clearly the same frame. The Leesons' shot is a
different frame, you can tell my lining up the foreground with bits and pieces
of the background. I would put it down to two cameras side by side, or
misattribution, rather than to plagiarism.
There is a famous pair of photos taken at the same moment in Vietnam by Philip
Jones-Griffiths and Tim Page that shows an example of something like this, and
I'm sure there must be many others from photographers travelling in packs.
This is an unpleasant image:
Page:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/13476480@N07/29749724063
P J-G:
https://mediastore3.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR2/b/2/1/0/NYC36062.jpg
In fact, another good example is the stills of the 'tank man' of Tiananmen
Square, for which Stuart Franklin won a World Press award, but other
photographers on the same hotel balcony got much the same shot, with only minor
differences.
On 23 Dec 2018, at 20:34, ann sanfedele
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The Polar Bear Saga... My gallery first - scroll right after viewing the
typtyich .. the last photo is the flipped version Bob found.
THis is the first image in my gallery - to show you the screen shots I got side
by side
https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/THE-THREE-BEARS-a-puzzlement/i-b89K7LG/XL
here is the link to the photo on Mangelsen's web page, followed by the other
two found by John and Bob W
Ken got me to ....
https://www.mangelsen.com/winter-solace-2446.html
Bob's find :
http://www.artsandartists.org/exhibitions/past-endangeredtreasures/
John found
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/polar-bear-family-thomas-and-pat-leeson.html
(where I took the screen shot from - I did all the wrok on that before seeing
the link to the web page :-))
and , from the leeson's web page tinyurled for us.
https://tinyurl.com/anns-bears
I really feel the other two photographers were given permission to market these
, or in the csae of Ward maybe a simple misattribution on the web, or
they are simply ripping off Mangelsens work. Is it possible they all three
were at that spot at the same time??? Something just aint right.
ann
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