Thanks Jack. I have occasionally done something similar but I without  the 
final resharpening. Since these photos are just for grins I don't work that 
hard as a rule, but I like your suggestion and will try it.


Paul via phone

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Jack Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Like the composition and cuteness, Paul.
> The grain does bother me some, however.
> After sharpening, I often go to "Filter" in the edit heading, chose, 
> despeckle under "noise", 
> and "despeckle" a grainy image followed by a resharpening.
> Smooths the scene and, I feel, cleans up the image.
> 
> j
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <[email protected]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 4:18:15 PM
> Subject: Re: More Birdies, different converters
> 
> Yeah, the 28000 shot  is extreme, especially since it is about a 50% crop. 
> Bit I'm okay with noisy pics as long as they're sharp. The noise is no more 
> pronounced than Tri-x grain at ISO 800. Printed and viewed from a normal 
> distance, this type shot is fine by me. But I think you're more particular 
> than I am. That could be a good thing. Someone has to maintain the standards 
> around here! :-)
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Big improvement in noise with the second shot - 28000 vs 1500.
>> 
>> I would consider the one at 28000 just about unusable.
>> 
>> Nice lighting on the second one - nicely caught eye highlight.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: More Birdies, different converters
>> 
>> 
>>> This appears to be a finch, and I shot it with the D FA 150-450 and the A2X 
>>> S converter. Like the other pic I posted it’s f8, 1/320th and about ISO 
>>> 28,00
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307583&size=lg
>>> 
>>> For this one I put on the DA 1.4 AF converter and slowed the shutter speed 
>>> down to 1/80th, I was able to get the ISO down to about 1500. (The bird, a 
>>> Junko, was also in better light.)
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307586&size=lg
>>> 
>>> The much slower shutter speed works fine if the bird down’t move, but if he 
>>> takes off I’ll lose what might be a good shot.
>>> 
>>> Tons of fun in the backyard.I shot the pics sitting in a lawn chair with 
>>> the camera on a tripod. I think sitting s a plus because it minimizes my 
>>> size.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>> 
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