Jostein, I don't understand how it come to be that you inferred from my reasoning that common sense and law don't apply somewhere, say on FB? I would appreciate an explanation, even if off-list.
Then, I did not mean to imply that FB were criminals. I meant to illustrate the point that this specific lady struck me as a very special kind of individual - one that is more preoccupied with righteousness than with anything else. I may be wrong, but at least I tried to clarify my view. I think that FB is too big a community to have it change their practices based on experience of a single individual. It is in fact a very interesting issue, because FB is not democratic by design. The rules are not produced by mutual discussion of FB members, but rather are given. But I sense this will lead us even further off the original topic. Cheers! On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne <[email protected]> wrote: > I've tried to stay out of this discussion, but alas... > > Boris' reasoning has two _big_ flaws. One is accepting that certain > geographical (or virtual in the sense of facebook) areas are exempt from > common sense and law. I can see no reason why anyone would resign to such a > state of affairs. > > With regards to facebook's community standards, their community is made up > by their users. If enough ruckus is made by their community over certain > rules, they stand to lose more by not changing their practice. > > And that leads me to the other flaw in the comparison. Facebook are not, > like the thieves in Boris' example, criminals. > > > My two cents, > Jostein > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Boris Liberman > Dato: 9. desember 2013 09:08 > Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Emne: Re: fanning the flames > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, David Parsons <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Too exhibitionist for showing a picture of her daughter? That is >> called slut shaming (or victim blaming if you are sensitive), blaming >> the victim for acting outside your accepted norms. > > > Dave, let me try to explain. > > Dave, consider this scenario. You drive in a neighborhood and in great > hurry you leave your car windows open. Your car gets robbed. You > invoke insurance, and so on. While engaged in damage control you are > let known that this neighborhood is rather full of thieves. A week > later you have to pass by the same route again. This time, rather > knowingly and on purpose you leave your car doors opened one more time > and your car gets promptly robbed. This time however, along with > invoking the insurance, you also start a very loud publicity campaign. > > Now, consider this: > > 1. Although you were quite right both times (as far theft being out of > the law, etc), you were not very smart to leave your car doors opened. > The first time over you were being normal human - you were in a hurry > and you were preoccupied with something important. > > 2. The second time you did it on purpose. Further, this time you were > knowingly inviting the thief so that you can cry out loud. Again - you > were right by the letter of the law, but you were very non-smart other > than that. Ultimately, I should point out that in this case your > behavior may indicate a deeper underlying problem than just being > robbed. > > 3. Finally, if your original plan was a publicity campaign against > thieves in general or in this very neighborhood, don't tell me that > the damage done to your car is something you cannot possibly stand. In > other words - don't be childish. > > Now, my understanding (from reading the blog post comments) that this > is not the very first time this lady has problem with FB authorities. > Ultimate bottom line here is Hebrew saying "Be wise, don't be right". > > I hope I got my point across. Also let it be noted that this direction > of the discussion has nothing to do with whatever was depicted in > that/these photograph/s. > > > -- > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
