Paul via phone

> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:04 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> We disagree on many issues, Paul. But you're always a gentleman. And a friend.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> But a friend. 
That's all I aspire to. Let's do a male nude pug. It would be interesting to 
see who could do it justice .
> 
> LOL!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I love you too Frank. Seriously, you're a pal. That's why I try to
>> liberate you:-)
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You completely miss my point Paul. 
>>> 
>>> I don't shoot nudes. Male or female. I wouldn't do the genre justice.
>> Male or female.
>>> 
>>> And I wasn't complaining. I was commenting.
>>> 
>>> So far the comments to my post are about what I expected, from the
>> expected sources.
>>> 
>>> But I love ya, buddy!
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> Anyone else?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> frank
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, I would
>> think
>>>> that someone who fervently believes there should be balance would
>>>> strive to make that happen rather than merely complaining . I shot a
>>>> nude self portrait in sycamore canyon about a dozen years ago. Hmmm.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul via phone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:35 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What makes you think I haven't protested museums and galleries?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Besides, just because another venue objectifies females doesn't
>> mean
>>>> it should be done here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And there are surely many reasons other than beauty to portray the
>>>> male form. Power, athleticism, eroticism, are they not valid
>> reasons?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not that I accept your statement that female forms are more
>> beautiful
>>>> than male. That strikes as pure opinion not backed by any facts
>>>> whatsoever. How could it be anything other than opinion?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keep in mind that the art world, from artists to curators to
>> gallery
>>>> owners to purchasers is male-dominated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> frank
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female bodies.
>> Art
>>>>>> history weighs heavily in favor of the female form. Perhaps you
>>>> should
>>>>>> mount a protest at the Met. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul via phone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:14 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The catalyst for this little missive, I must admit, is Bruce's
>>>> recent
>>>>>> series of NSFW semi-nudes. That being said, it's not directed
>>>>>> specifically to or at Bruce. It's more a comment on the whole
>> female
>>>>>> nude thing. Others have posted similar photos in the past and
>> likely
>>>>>> will do so again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My problem, of course, is the objectification of women. And it's
>>>> not
>>>>>> because they're sexualized by showing "dirty parts". It's because
>>>>>> there's such a huge disparity between male nudes and female nudes.
> 
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