The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, I would think that someone who fervently believes there should be balance would strive to make that happen rather than merely complaining . I shot a nude self portrait in sycamore canyon about a dozen years ago. Hmmm.
Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:35 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote: > > What makes you think I haven't protested museums and galleries? > > Besides, just because another venue objectifies females doesn't mean it > should be done here. > > And there are surely many reasons other than beauty to portray the male form. > Power, athleticism, eroticism, are they not valid reasons? > > Not that I accept your statement that female forms are more beautiful than > male. That strikes as pure opinion not backed by any facts whatsoever. How > could it be anything other than opinion? > > Keep in mind that the art world, from artists to curators to gallery owners > to purchasers is male-dominated. > > Cheers, > frank > > Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female bodies. Art >> history weighs heavily in favor of the female form. Perhaps you should >> mount a protest at the Met. >> >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:14 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The catalyst for this little missive, I must admit, is Bruce's recent >> series of NSFW semi-nudes. That being said, it's not directed >> specifically to or at Bruce. It's more a comment on the whole female >> nude thing. Others have posted similar photos in the past and likely >> will do so again. >>> >>> My problem, of course, is the objectification of women. And it's not >> because they're sexualized by showing "dirty parts". It's because >> there's such a huge disparity between male nudes and female nudes. >>> >>> As in: there has never been a male nude shown here (that I've seen in >> some thirteen years). I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here. >>> >>> A couple of years ago someone posted a few photos that appeared to >> have been semi-erotic (but not nude) gay pin-ups. The only comment I >> recall was something to the effect that, "all I see here is gay >> soft-core porn". >>> >>> No comments about the technical aspects of the shots, the nice light, >> nothing. I stand accused and guilty myself. >>> >>> I only mention that because there seems to be a double standard here: >> it's okay to show female sexuality but not male. And I wonder why? >>> >>> I understand that an individual photographer will say, "But I don't >> want to photograph male nudes. As a straight male I just don't >> appreciate male nudity, erotic or otherwise. It's my right to choose to >> photograph only female nudes." >>> >>> Fair enough. >>> >>> And yes, the female nudes shown here have been tasteful and >> relatively discreet. Nothing gratuitous. >>> >>> But here's the rub: showing genitalia and breasts is sexual. It >> sexualizes the women. Even if they consent to it they are being >> portrayed in such a way that shows them as primarily sexual persons >> which takes away from other aspects of their being. >>> >>> I know that sexuality is a part of our adult lives. >>> >>> However until there is some balance between portrayal of the genders >> I can't support female nudes. Because until that happens females will >> be sexualized and males won't be. And I just don't think that's right. >>> >>> I'm not trying to stop anyone from posting female nudes. But I won't >> encourage it by commenting (except in the rarest of circumstances). >>> >>> In closing, I'm no prude. And I'm sure I'll be accused of spouting >> the politically correct lefty party line. So be it. >>> >>> What I'm really doing is expressing my personal opinion. Thanks for >> you indulgence. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> frank >>> >>> >>> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
