I love you too Frank. Seriously, you're a pal. That's why I try to liberate 
you:-)

Paul via phone

> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You completely miss my point Paul. 
> 
> I don't shoot nudes. Male or female. I wouldn't do the genre justice. Male or 
> female.
> 
> And I wasn't complaining. I was commenting.
> 
> So far the comments to my post are about what I expected, from the expected 
> sources.
> 
> But I love ya, buddy!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Anyone else?
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, I would think
>> that someone who fervently believes there should be balance would
>> strive to make that happen rather than merely complaining . I shot a
>> nude self portrait in sycamore canyon about a dozen years ago. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:35 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What makes you think I haven't protested museums and galleries?
>>> 
>>> Besides, just because another venue objectifies females doesn't mean
>> it should be done here.
>>> 
>>> And there are surely many reasons other than beauty to portray the
>> male form. Power, athleticism, eroticism, are they not valid reasons?
>>> 
>>> Not that I accept your statement that female forms are more beautiful
>> than male. That strikes as pure opinion not backed by any facts
>> whatsoever. How could it be anything other than opinion?
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind that the art world, from artists to curators to gallery
>> owners to purchasers is male-dominated.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> frank
>>> 
>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female bodies. Art
>>>> history weighs heavily in favor of the female form. Perhaps you
>> should
>>>> mount a protest at the Met. 
>>>> 
>>>> Paul via phone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:14 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The catalyst for this little missive, I must admit, is Bruce's
>> recent
>>>> series of NSFW semi-nudes. That being said, it's not directed
>>>> specifically to or at Bruce. It's more a comment on the whole female
>>>> nude thing. Others have posted similar photos in the past and likely
>>>> will do so again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My problem, of course, is the objectification of women. And it's
>> not
>>>> because they're sexualized by showing "dirty parts". It's because
>>>> there's such a huge disparity between male nudes and female nudes.
>>>>> 

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