On Dec 21, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
>> From: Bruce Walker
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/economy-40/decline-kodak-
>>>>> offers-lessons-us-business
>>>>> 
>>>>> A story on Marketplace, transcript and audio. Interesting reader
>>>>> comments also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom C.
>>>> they say it offers a lesson for US business, but IBM did the same thing -
>>>> twice (DOS and Oracle) - and has managed to recover.
>>>> 
>>>> B
>>> But IBM merely had to hire and/or shift software architects and
>>> developers into the rebuilding project and jump-start it. The
>>> infrastructure for computer software is all there.
>>> 
>>> This article is pointing out how, if you let entire product categories
>>> go, then the manufacturing know-how, the staff, designers, all the
>>> infrastructure goes too. Think about another category that was big up
>>> until the 1970's then disappeared from North America: televisions and
>>> hifi. If the US wanted to build that consumer electronics again, it
>>> would have to start absolutely from scratch. There's nothing there. No
>>> supply chain, no designers, no manufacturing, nada. All TVs and hifi
>>> stuff is now made in the Pac Rim somewhere.
>> 
>> Most of your computer components too. There may be some assembly plants left 
>> in the U.S.
> 
> It's a "tragedy of the commons" thing. For each business it makes economic 
> sense to move aspects of production off shore to where labor is cheaper. 
> After a while, nobody is building anything in the US anymore. Except for 
> Toyota and Honda who now have some car plants here.  

Toyota and Honda plants are in right=to-work states. But that's not a solution 
for homegrown manufacturers, since right=to-work is a string of obscenities to 
democrats, who depend on union votes. Off-shore production is a fact of life 
for many products, and consumer electronics are chief among them. .

BTW, the Detroit three still build cars here as well, many of them in union 
plants. But it's tough to compete with those who get a better deal. Did someone 
ask why they needed government bailouts to stay in business?


> 
> Now, they're even trying to outsource writing software. At the moment,  the 
> problem is that few of the Asian programmers have the necessary mindset to 
> write code well. Then there is the disconnect from managing projects with 
> teams 8-12 timezones apart.  Eventually, the software culture will develop in 
> Asia while fewer and fewer American kids learn how to program, and we'll be 
> left wondering how to support ourselves, with nobody left qualified to design 
> or manufacture anything in this country. 
> 
> In the meantime, we can get stuff cheap at Wal-Mart.
> 
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