Ctein, over at TOP shoots stochastically, and his latest Thurday post touched on almost exactly what you are talking about. There was a comment that 6 shots was his spray and pray amount.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/its-just-how-i-work.html On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Walter Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > Duly noted. I guess my biggest concern is, based on some of the comments > on some of the stories about stochastic method I've read, whether or not I'm > missing out on a lot of texture by being lazy. I've seen so many images > that are just so rich in detail, yet the subject matter seemed to be of a > nature that demanded snap judgment. I couldn't help wondering if there were > some particular method or technique I ought to be using that is suffering > from my approach. > > In a way, it's a relief to know that, rather than being lazy, I'm just not > that talented. > > Thanks, David. > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert > http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ <http://polipix.posterous.com/> > Contact Me Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert>Flickr > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/>Twitter > <http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert> > > --- @ WiseStamp Signature > <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhb&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install>. > Get it now > <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhb&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install> > On 11/21/2010 8:02 PM, David Parsons wrote: >> >> Spray and Pray really doesn't have anything to do with a Stochastic >> method. Besides that, 3 or 4 carefully considered shots is the >> antithesis of S&P. >> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For the past couple of days, I seem to keep encountering references to >>> "stochastic" photography -- or "spray and pray" if you will, and it's >>> piqued >>> my interest. It's not that I'm considering actively pursuing the >>> practice >>> so much as I wonder how much my current style (method?) could actually be >>> considered stochastic. Having never worked in the vicinity of another >>> photographer before, my days out shooting with Ted Beilby were, as I >>> said, >>> educational. We took nearly diametrically opposed approaches. >>> >>> Clearly, Ted came out with better quality shots than I did. He was much >>> more methodical and exacting and produce much more highly textured images >>> than I did. At the same time, I came out with some images that, while >>> not >>> as polished as Ted's, did have some redeeming value -- at least I thought >>> they did. I was so arrested by the sheer amount of potential subject >>> matter >>> that I felt I had to get as many different shots as I could in order to >>> get >>> a reasonable account of my experience, so I shot hand-held, almost >>> exclusively. Knowing that I'd have at least several hundred shots to go >>> through at the end of my trip (also, due to a relative lack of PC >>> processing >>> power and memory), I stuck to shooting single exposures in jpeg. >>> >>> Some subjects, I chose to take three or four different shots from >>> different >>> perspectives and focal depths, while others I shot once or twice and >>> moved >>> on. And, that's typically the way I do things. A large part of the >>> reason >>> for that is that I simply don't trust what the camera shows me on its >>> display to be an accurate depiction of what I'm going to see when I load >>> it >>> onto the computer. The same goes for my perception of any given scene at >>> the time. I come away with rough approximation in my mind, and when I >>> get >>> home, I'm usually "fairly"close, but never seemingly dead-on in my >>> expectations. >>> >>> And, of course, a good bit of what I do shoot simply defies staging in >>> any >>> practical sense. I'm not going to be able to tell a butterfly how to >>> hold >>> its wings, or a bird where to position itself within my frame. So, I >>> have >>> to make snap judgments and several attempts. To the extent that I'm able >>> to >>> dictate composition, I do make a fairly diligent attempt at it. But, at >>> the >>> same time, I don't try to control every minute detail -- essentially >>> because >>> the vast majority of the subjects I shoot are in an environment that >>> simply >>> defies control. >>> >>> So, I was just curious as to the thoughts of the folks on the list as to >>> how >>> much my approach would be considered "spray and pray" by more seasoned >>> photographers, and how much it would benefit if it were less so. >>> >>> Thanks for any input anyone has to offer. >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert >>> http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/<http://polipix.posterous.com/> >>> Contact Me Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbert>Flickr >>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/>Twitter >>> <http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert> >>> >>> --- @ WiseStamp Signature >>> >>> <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhb&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install>. >>> Get it now >>> >>> <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhb&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
