On 12 Jan 2002 at 17:40, Frantisek Vlcek wrote:

> I have no experience with scanning grainy film at 4000+ ppi, but from
> what I read in the thread earlier, the problem was that not a
> continuous tone image but a line art image is recorded when the grain
> is larger than the CCD's pixel size - either getting moire patterns
> or, if the grain is sufficiently larger than pixel size, image without
> cont. tone at all - like scanning a magazine page at 1200 ppi.

Hi Frantisek,

The situation encountered when scanning large grained films is much like you 
describe above.

> This of
> course makes any manipulation like USM, levels, etc very hard if not
> impossible.

Really it is impossible to apply standard curves and filters, even though there 
is of course still a range of grays within the image they respond quite 
differently from a con-tone image under the same action.

 Median filter would work to make it back into continuous
> tone. Or maybe Gauss or other blurring filter. As I understand it, it
> has nothing to do with liking or disliking grain, it has more to do
> with continuous tone or line art. In such a case, perhaps it would be
> better to scan at lower resolution (thus making the grain smaller than
> pixel size), producing a continuous tone image, and than blowing it up
> via Genuine Fractals or similar software.

I have done just this with images requiring a degree of contrast control or 
level/gamma adjustment, scanning at an appropriate resolution and experimenting 
will various filters can yield quite good con-tone image capable of producing 
good output. I have yet to purchase a Genuine Fractals product but I am now 
quite keen to experiment given some of the positive accounts by members of 
various photographic lists.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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