Is it possible to get the lighting and background to allow shooting the hydrant 
centered in front of the red valves(?). Should be compressed by using a long 
lens from some distance to gain the needed DoF.

Jack


--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Larry Colen <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Hydrant revisited
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:22 AM
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:12:53PM +1100, Brian Walters
> wrote:
> # Hi Larry
> # 
> # On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:13:13 -0800, "Larry
> Colen" <[email protected]>
> # said:
> # 
> # > 
> # > Either of these will show the pictures, depending on
> your viewing
> # > preferences:
> # > 
> # >
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614295376847/
> # > or
> # >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614295376847/
> # > 
> # 
> # 
> # I'm not sure you've quite nailed this set yet. 
> There's certainly
> 
> I'm certain I haven't.
> 
> # potential with those bright colours.  
> 
> I look at it as both the potential for a decent photo, and
> the chance
> to learn. Sometimes there is one obvious shot of a subject,
> and
> getting a decent shot of it is straight forward. But this
> is a
> situation, where there is obvious potential, but how to
> make the best
> of it is far less than obvious.  Combine that with the fact
> that
> everyone's taste differs, and the feedback that I'm
> getting is very
> educational. 
> 
> # Of these I think IMGP1521 works best 
> 
> I'd also like to know why you think it works. I kind of
> like the way
> the various elements keep drawing the eye in a circle, the
> trees take
> you away to the right, the red down and the curb back. When
> the sun
> and the flowers come out, I think that there will also be
> some nice
> pink and green to offset the red and yellow.
> 
> # but it's spoiled by the tree trunk directly behind
> the hydrant. 
> 
> Good point. I don't remember what I was trying for
> then. A lot of the
> shots yesterday were, admittedly, taken by putting the
> camera next to
> the ground and aiming in the general direction. I knew I
> wanted a low
> angle, but the ground was wet, so for these test shots I
> took the lazy
> way out and made use of autofocus and the fact that digital
> frames
> don't cost me anything to shoot.
> 
> # Perhaps a shooting position a bit further to the right
> would separate
> # the trunk and the hydrant and also make the hydrant less
> centred (which
> # might bring better balance to the composition).  The
> closer shots
> # (1520/1515) don't work for me - there are two
> distinct points of
> 
> Interesting point, and looking at them again, they
> don't exactly
> balance each other.
> 
> # interest.  I think a shooting position that made the
> hydrant and the
> # valves closer together would be preferable.
> 
> I'll keep that in mind.  Thanks a bunch for the
> feedback.
> 
> # 
> # 
> # 
> # Cheers
> # 
> # Brian
> # 
> # ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> # Brian Walters
> # Western Sydney Australia
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