The easiest thing for me to do (and I usually do) is use my pro lab sending the images through the Labtricity system. They know me there and have all relevant information. However, we needed something really quick and cheap (wife's angle on that one) so went to the nearby Walmart.
-- Best regards, Bruce Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:41:45 PM, you wrote: JS> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Lovely smile and eyes. Would they be concerned that the files were >> being ripped off maybe,.?? Dave JS> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JS> wrote: >>>>> From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife >>>>> wanted >>>> some small, cheap prints done. This is a job for Walmart. So I >>>> went in and put the digital order in. When my wife went to pick >>>> them up, they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too >>>> professional'. In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the >>>> operators there thought the shot was good. JS> Nah. They don't care if the photographer gets ripped off, only whether JS> they might get sued for it. It's the D.M.C. thing. JS> The way the law was written, if someone uses a photo-lab using "digital" JS> reproduction (i.e. any mini-lab using equipment made in the last decade) JS> to print "copyrighted" photos, *THE LAB*, as equipment owner, is liable JS> for the copyright violation, not the customer printing the photos. JS> It was intended to allow the record companies to go after whoever owned JS> the factory where bootleg/pirate CDs were manufactured ... but it JS> doesn't specifically EXCLUDE digital-hybrid mini-labs, so it ends up JS> being applied to photo reproduction at Walmart (and others). JS> A successful law suit by a photographer could result in $500,000.00 JS> liability PER INCIDENT, where each individual print (or individual JS> pirate CD) is considered one incident. The chances of that kind of JS> lawsuit are infinitesimally small, but the corporate lawyers get paid JS> big bucks to find these little things to worry over. JS> So, most corporate mini-lab owners, including my own employer, have a JS> written "policy" prohibiting reproduction of copyrighted material JS> without the copyright holder's permission. JS> Enforcement of said company policies are hit and miss ... mostly miss, JS> because as I said, the corporation doesn't really care if the JS> photographer gets ripped off, they just don't want it to cost them money. JS> IF a lab employee does tell a customer the lab can't print something JS> because it's copyrighted; and the customer gets upset and complains, the JS> lab employee is going to get reprimanded (B.T.D.T.,G.T.T.S.), possibly JS> even fired for "upsetting the customer" ... JS> ... not to mention expecting you to just stand there and take an ass JS> chewing in front of the customer (which I didn't just stand there and JS> take; which is why they threatened to fire me). JS> BUT if the lab employee does NOT tell the customer the lab can't print JS> the copyrighted material; and the photographer sues, the corporation JS> will fire the employee for failing to follow the "written policy", and JS> use that to shift the burden of defending the lawsuit onto the FORMER JS> lab employee. JS> From Bruce's point of view - i.e. he wants his wife to be able to pick JS> up the photos with no hassle - the easiest way to handle it is put the JS> copyright notice in the image "C 2008 Dayton Photo" and have a JS> letterhead for "Dayton Photo". Write a copyright release on the JS> letterhead for your wife to take with her to Walmart when she picks up JS> the photos. JS> That's the key. Anyone may reproduce copyrighted works WITH THE JS> COPYRIGHT HOLDER'S PERMISSION. JS> The biggest recurring hassle for me from all this, is where the wedding JS> photographer gives the Bride & Groom a CD so they can print their own JS> wedding photos, but fails to give them a copyright release. JS> You could even include it as an image on the CD. JS> -- JS> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JS> [email protected] JS> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JS> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

