That's pretty much what I was getting at in my comments,
"controlled conditions", not to evaluate overall quality
but to provide a meaningful comparison of different
variables such as you mention below.
I just kept the subject limited to lenses.
As I mentioned in my post to Rob, don't you think
a test target with several different objects, IN
ADDITION to the chart would tell more about the over-
all nature of the gear being tested?

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
> 
> 
> the main value in shooting test charts is comparing
> the differences in films/sensors/lenses/fstops, etc
> not the absolute numbers.
> 
> You have to be careful not to "taint" the tests
> though with poor techniques like inconsistant
> lighting, focus errors, unstable tripods, exposure
> and development errors, etc.
> JCO
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: USAF target and resolution tests
> 
> 
> As I was reading this post I was printing off a copy
> of the test chart on my new HP 7960 inkjet.
> By the time I read the comments below I realised that
> all the chart will tell me is how well the ist D and
> my lenses take photos of test charts!
> I really don't plan on becoming a test chart
> photographer.
> Some of my lenses such as the Super Tak 85/1.9 will
> never see the test chart anyway.
> Don't have to, I fell in love with that lens after
> only 3 or 4 images.
> I do see a use for the chart in evaluating relative
> performance of zooms at different FL's, or perhaps
> trying all the stops on a lens under controlled
> conditions.
> Add the fact that I find testing lenses rather fun.
> 
> Other than that I tend to agree with William, the
> test that counts is the real world images.
> 
> I'm still glad that I printed the chart though, my
> $179.00 printer made me get out an 8x loupe to see
> the finest detail it could print. Now that's
> impressive! If it's better than my eyeballs, it's
> good enough for me. ;-)
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: USAF target and resolution tests
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe it's because I spent so many years in the game, but I just
> > don't care about this sort of thing any more. I just go out and take 
> > pictures and I don't go looking for trouble.
> > If the film/ lens/ digital sensor/ whatever makes pictures that I 
> > find pleasing, then I am happy with the equipment. I can't be 
> > bothered with trying to squeeze the last possible drop of performance 
> > out of something. That's too much like work.
> > If small format, be it digital or film, won't resolve enough for a 
> > situation, I pull out a larger camera.
> > 
> > I just don't think the difference between doing it right, and going
> > to extraordinary measures makes a whole lot of difference.
> > William Robb
> 

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