Heiko,

In the US, if both companies were on equal footing that would be true.
The basic problem is that a DSLR costing $1500 USD is not inexpensive.
The MZ-S at $800 is not selling well compared to a Nikon F100 at over
$1000.  I think that people willing to spend $1500 would take a hard
look at the companies and system.  At this point, Canon has a much
better story to tell.  Current track record D30, D60, 1D, 1DS and now
10D - IS and USM lenses, broader line of lenses, pro support, well
known brand name and visible working pros using the system.  Pentax
doesn't have any of those things.  Mostly they are known for P&S and
entry level SLR's.  People who buy current Pentax products are not
going to spend $1500 on a DSLR.  People who have old lenses that they
haven't used in years are not going to spend $1500 on a DSLR.  They
are actively using something else or are not ready to spend that much
on a DSLR.  $1500 may be inexpensive for a DSLR, but it is still very
expensive for a camera.  The *ist D is going to be the most expensive
camera that Pentax has put out in a long time (The last of the LX, I
wouldn't really count as a main stream product - more collector/Pentax
purist).  So, either the *ist D needs to be obviously better spec'ed
than the 10D or obviously better priced.  Based on everything we know,
the *ist D is NOT obviously better spec'ed.  Therefore, it need to be
OBVIOUSLY better priced to really take off.

Mind you, I'm not saying it won't sell, just that it won't make any
serious inroads into the general DSLR market.  Us Pentaxians will
support it, but we are small in number and only a small percentage of
us will buy it (reality check).  Many are waiting for a lower price,
version 2 (bugs worked out) or full frame sensor.

So I am saying that there needs to be an OBVIOUS reason to choose the
*ist D over the 10D Canon.  So if there feature set is very similar
and their price is very similar, what is so different?  The Brand for
one, and in this country that pushes people to Canon.  Size is a
difference (I'm glad that it is smaller), but I'm not hearing or
reading that it makes any material difference.  Oh, yeah, the 10D has
a magnesium outer shell - big plus towards the 10D.

So you tell me, how is Pentax going to turn heads and get people to
buy the *ist D over the Canon 10D?


Bruce



Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 1:23:00 AM, you wrote:

HH> Hi Bruce,

HH> on 04 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:

>>killer product. If they don't and the price is not much different than
>>a 10D, then you are right, no one will buy it, based on the strength,
>>direction and reputation of Canon.

HH> I don't agree. Why should the *istD necessarily be cheaper than the  
HH> Canon in order to sell well? If you say that the price is the primary  
HH> reason to decide between Pentax and Canon then one could also argue that  
HH> the Pentax may not be cheaper than the Canon because "cheaper" is often  
HH> connected with "worser" and "lower quality/performance".

HH> I assume that both will sell around 1400 +/-100 US$. The DSLR market is  
HH> an oligopolistic market. There is no real price competition as the  
HH> demand exceeds the offer.


HH> Cheers, Heiko

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