I suppose that this to channel thing with voiceover in one and sound in the other could be useful if you're wearing a headset, taking a phone call and listening to the phone with one here and VoiceOver doing something with the other ear. I couldn't do that, but somebody probably good. Also for people who use mixers, of whom I am not one, I guess this could be useful. But for the use I wanted it for, it's useless. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > Well that’s really good down to earth common sense ain’t it <smile>, too bad > if you want to listen to stereo. > On the other hand perhaps Apple can’t easily separate Voiceover from the > Bluetooth stream without a major redesign. > >> On 5 Oct. 2016, at 3:01 am, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> Hmmm, Maybe I'll have another go with Airplay then. Incidentally, there was >> a rumour that IOS 10 was going to allow one to keep Voice Over on a device >> while playing audio over Bluetooth. I was disappointed when it didn't >> transpire. Instead, it allows you to have audio on one channel and Voice >> Over on the other. >> >> John >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary >> Otten >> Sent: 04 October 2016 16:32 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay >> >> For anyone using an Apple device, there are some Stansel advantages to using >> airplay. For one thing, VoiceOver stays on your device and doesn't interfere >> with the music. For another, you can have multiple rooms playing from one >> Mac. Of course you have to have airport expresses. But it still beats >> Bluetooth for sound as far as I'm concerned. And not having VoiceOver >> interfering with my music is a huge advantage. And it's also less laggy >> Bluetooth. I have to disagree with John on that one. Trying to use my >> android device when I'm playing music through my mega boom speakers is not >> fun. Plus, I have a stereo downstairs. If I were stuck using Bluetooth, my >> Mac wouldn't reach there. And if I left my eye device upstairs and went >> downstairs for something, I'd be out of luck if I wanted to use that >> downstairs stereo. Bluetooth won't go that far. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, you pretty much summed it up and I'll get to that in a moment. >>> I've not heard of the speaker you mentioned but I do know of something >> that sounds similar, the new Bowers And Wilkins Zeplin wireless which has >> Bluetooth and Airplay facilities as well as Spotify Connect. >>> Unfortunately Bowers And Wilkins have seen fit not to give the Zeplin Air >> DLNA connectivity, perhaps the thinking at B&W is that DLNA isn't as good as >> AirPlay. >>> Now that Bluetooth AptX is in use widely I just don't see a future for >> AirPlay and the "Lag" exhibited by AirPlay is perhaps the most telling point >> in this discussion, absolutely no good for wireless headphones for example. >>> >>>> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 5:37 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've got a speaker in my loft called a Stealth Air 2 which has both >>>> Airplay and Bluetooth with a rather nifty little remote that lets you >> select either. >>>> I use Bluetooth every time. Less laggy for one thing. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 12:37 >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay >>>> >>>> Hmm.. interesting point however take a look around you and count just >>>> how many AirPlayed enabled devices there are now compared to a few years >> ago? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/10/2016 5:32 PM, John Gurd wrote: >>>>> Surely Apple wouldn't invent a whole system of Airplaying audio >>>>> using a method different from anyone else to thousands of appliances >>>>> designed just for it and depended upon by millions of people just to >>>>> get rid of it? No, that doesn't sound like Apple! (Grin) >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 04:15 >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay >>>>> >>>>> Still there yes but I'm given to wondering just how long for? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/10/2016 1:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> Well, they don't exactly advertise it, nor is it well labeled. At >>>>>> least it >>>>> is still there. >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Dane Trethowan >>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Okay thanks for that, I found the iPhone icon in the Control >>>>>>> center, it >>>>> was where you said on page two, would never have known about it had >>>>> you not mentioned it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive >>>>>>> outlooks >>>>> are the solution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 Oct. 2016, at 7:06 am, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can still get to the audio airplay in control center, >>>>>>>> although you >>>>> might not know it because it's in adequately labeled. If you go to >>>>> "page 2, in your control center view, by doing the iOS page change >>>>> three finger flick, one of the things you will see in there with >>>>> other music controls is the announcement iPhone, assuming you were >>>>> using an iPhone. Or it might say iPad, if you're using an iPad. >>>>> Double tap on that, and you will see all the choices of whatever >>>>> other airplay and able audio devices you have. This is true for the >>>>> Amazon music app and the Apple Music app. I assume it's true in >>>>> general, although those are the only two I tried. Frankly, I like >>>>> the option of having the air play control it within the app. That's >>>>> how it used to be before they moved >>>> it to control center. And I wish they would put it back. >>>>> Or at least wish they would have the flexibility for app developers >>>>> to include that airplay functionality right in the main screen of >>>>> the app. That was the most convenient I thought. >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Dane Trethowan >>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Has anyone bothered to use IOS 10 with AirPlay? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if you've noticed what I have if you go into the >>>>>>>>> control >>>>> center and activate AirPlay from there. >>>>>>>>> On my iPhone I only see the option to Mirror to an Apple TV - >>>>>>>>> which I >>>>> don't have at the moment - and I don't see an option to stream audio >>>>> to any other compatible device. >>>>>>>>> The only way I know of to get around this is to go into the >>>>>>>>> Music App, >>>>> launch the mini player view and select an AirPlay device from there, >>>>> a little annoying to have to perform that extra step but at least I >>>>> can still select my AirPlay device of choice in a roundabout way it >>>>> has to be >>>> said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ********** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > ********** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > >
