Well that’s really good down to earth common sense ain’t it <smile>, too bad if you want to listen to stereo. On the other hand perhaps Apple can’t easily separate Voiceover from the Bluetooth stream without a major redesign.
> On 5 Oct. 2016, at 3:01 am, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Hmmm, Maybe I'll have another go with Airplay then. Incidentally, there was > a rumour that IOS 10 was going to allow one to keep Voice Over on a device > while playing audio over Bluetooth. I was disappointed when it didn't > transpire. Instead, it allows you to have audio on one channel and Voice > Over on the other. > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: 04 October 2016 16:32 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay > > For anyone using an Apple device, there are some Stansel advantages to using > airplay. For one thing, VoiceOver stays on your device and doesn't interfere > with the music. For another, you can have multiple rooms playing from one > Mac. Of course you have to have airport expresses. But it still beats > Bluetooth for sound as far as I'm concerned. And not having VoiceOver > interfering with my music is a huge advantage. And it's also less laggy > Bluetooth. I have to disagree with John on that one. Trying to use my > android device when I'm playing music through my mega boom speakers is not > fun. Plus, I have a stereo downstairs. If I were stuck using Bluetooth, my > Mac wouldn't reach there. And if I left my eye device upstairs and went > downstairs for something, I'd be out of luck if I wanted to use that > downstairs stereo. Bluetooth won't go that far. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> > wrote: >> >> Yes, you pretty much summed it up and I'll get to that in a moment. >> I've not heard of the speaker you mentioned but I do know of something > that sounds similar, the new Bowers And Wilkins Zeplin wireless which has > Bluetooth and Airplay facilities as well as Spotify Connect. >> Unfortunately Bowers And Wilkins have seen fit not to give the Zeplin Air > DLNA connectivity, perhaps the thinking at B&W is that DLNA isn't as good as > AirPlay. >> Now that Bluetooth AptX is in use widely I just don't see a future for > AirPlay and the "Lag" exhibited by AirPlay is perhaps the most telling point > in this discussion, absolutely no good for wireless headphones for example. >> >>> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 5:37 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've got a speaker in my loft called a Stealth Air 2 which has both >>> Airplay and Bluetooth with a rather nifty little remote that lets you > select either. >>> I use Bluetooth every time. Less laggy for one thing. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: 03 October 2016 12:37 >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay >>> >>> Hmm.. interesting point however take a look around you and count just >>> how many AirPlayed enabled devices there are now compared to a few years > ago? >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/10/2016 5:32 PM, John Gurd wrote: >>>> Surely Apple wouldn't invent a whole system of Airplaying audio >>>> using a method different from anyone else to thousands of appliances >>>> designed just for it and depended upon by millions of people just to >>>> get rid of it? No, that doesn't sound like Apple! (Grin) >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 04:15 >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay >>>> >>>> Still there yes but I'm given to wondering just how long for? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3/10/2016 1:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> Well, they don't exactly advertise it, nor is it well labeled. At >>>>> least it >>>> is still there. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Dane Trethowan >>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Okay thanks for that, I found the iPhone icon in the Control >>>>>> center, it >>>> was where you said on page two, would never have known about it had >>>> you not mentioned it. >>>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> >>>>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive >>>>>> outlooks >>>> are the solution. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 Oct. 2016, at 7:06 am, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can still get to the audio airplay in control center, >>>>>>> although you >>>> might not know it because it's in adequately labeled. If you go to >>>> "page 2, in your control center view, by doing the iOS page change >>>> three finger flick, one of the things you will see in there with >>>> other music controls is the announcement iPhone, assuming you were >>>> using an iPhone. Or it might say iPad, if you're using an iPad. >>>> Double tap on that, and you will see all the choices of whatever >>>> other airplay and able audio devices you have. This is true for the >>>> Amazon music app and the Apple Music app. I assume it's true in >>>> general, although those are the only two I tried. Frankly, I like >>>> the option of having the air play control it within the app. That's >>>> how it used to be before they moved >>> it to control center. And I wish they would put it back. >>>> Or at least wish they would have the flexibility for app developers >>>> to include that airplay functionality right in the main screen of >>>> the app. That was the most convenient I thought. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Dane Trethowan >>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Has anyone bothered to use IOS 10 with AirPlay? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm wondering if you've noticed what I have if you go into the >>>>>>>> control >>>> center and activate AirPlay from there. >>>>>>>> On my iPhone I only see the option to Mirror to an Apple TV - >>>>>>>> which I >>>> don't have at the moment - and I don't see an option to stream audio >>>> to any other compatible device. >>>>>>>> The only way I know of to get around this is to go into the >>>>>>>> Music App, >>>> launch the mini player view and select an AirPlay device from there, >>>> a little annoying to have to perform that extra step but at least I >>>> can still select my AirPlay device of choice in a roundabout way it >>>> has to be >>> said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> > > > ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
