Assuming the program developers care about voice over. What about all of the "improvements that break previous voice over access?
Just asking as I have also considered changing to a Mac but am leaning back to the dreaded old PC. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 He Guy's. I'm a Microsoft remember Ha? I understand nothing about Apple or it's supports. I think, It's safe to assume however, that Apple will prove very helpful. Just look at voice-over. Works out of the box on all products for no extra cash. Not quite the Same as Microsoft and Freedom Scientific eh? Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith...@gmail.com> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > also applevis is another good resource > www.applevis.com > > On 3/22/2016 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Why do you need to go to all that trouble when Apple has all the up to >> date documentation on their support pages? >> >> >>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:50 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> No Dane, you misunderstand me my friend. What I was saying was that >>> this guy Mike really knew his stuff back then and must be up to date >>> with all the newer devices and OS. All I need do is contact someone >>> like Rick at the Blind Geek Zone, who may well put me in touch with >>> him. >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> Andy. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>> >>> >>> 2011 was 5 years ago and much has changed since then so time to get hold >>> of some updated information me thinks and I don’t care how good he >>> sounds to listen to, accurate and up to date information is more >>> important. >>> >>> >>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:31 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Brian. >>>> >>>> Yes, I was listening this morning to a Blind Cool Tech archive >>>> concerning the Mac Demo 14, which was recorded in 2011, by a guy called >>>> Mike Arrigo. I just loved listening to this guy speak and that of >>>> course was almost five years ago. >>>> >>>> I've no doubt that If Mike has an up to date tutorial on the new imac >>>> Retina, with some hard work, I'll learn the key-strokes This morning, >>>> I was also in contact with an organisation in Glasgow who have an open >>>> door policy to learning all Apple products. Aparently, all you do is >>>> walk in the front door and you'll get a chance to feel and check-out >>>> the item of your choice, which in my situation is a desk-top Mac. >>>> >>>> So I'm getting pretty excitted now about finding out more. Much more >>>> excited than toing attending a Windows 10 demo, So my mind is clearly >>>> made up, just need a little more cash now. >>>> >>>> Very best wishes. >>>> >>>> Andy. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk> >>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:29 AM >>>> Subject: SV: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Interacting with things in mac OS requires quite a lot of key strokes >>>> though. >>>> On the winning side web browsing is a breeze on Mac. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Robert >>>> Nelson >>>> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 22:40 >>>> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>>> Emne: RE: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> Perhaps but you must understand that learning about Mac OS and >>>> VoiceOver is >>>> only the beginning. >>>> >>>> If you had no experience with windows, you would accept that the >>>> awkward >>>> way things are done in MAC OS is normal but with a little experience >>>> of >>>> windows you will find yourself trying to work out the mind set of those >>>> who >>>> devised the OS and VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> However, given your experience in windows you may find that something >>>> like >>>> audio editing has a steep learning curve. Yes, I know that Garage >>>> Band, >>>> Amadeus Pro and Twisted Wave are very good audio editing programs for >>>> sighted people but for a blind person they can be very frustrating. >>>> >>>> The question you should be asking yourself is: is there anything that I >>>> would want to do that can only be done on a Mac and, if so, is it >>>> important >>>> enough for you to justify the outlay, considering that most of the >>>> things >>>> you might want to do are possible through your I Phone. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, excuse me while I duck around the back to avoid the arrows and >>>> flames of the Apple fans! >>>> >>>> Bob Nelson >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >>>> Logue >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 5:46 AM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>> >>>> Hi Devon and Hamit. >>>> >>>> I've always wanted to check out a mac computer but because ive been so >>>> brainwashed in Microsoft, I didn't have the self confidence to try it >>>> out >>>> for myself. >>>> >>>> What I was thinking was to keep my old Windows machine active for my >>>> mail >>>> and so on, but the Mac could sit alone in another room and if I spend >>>> some >>>> time each day, then I should be able to grasp the basic? eh? >>>> Especially if >>>> >>>> I joined a blind mac list. >>>> >>>> One thing I have already found out that my Imac Store, which is in >>>> glasgow, >>>> will spend up to an hour with a new customer in the shop. Perhaps they >>>> may >>>> be interessted in offering me a little more start-up time, given my >>>> blindness? Worth checking out eh? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your ideas guys. For the meantime, I'm going to check out >>>> everything I can on the Imac Retina on the webpage. >>>> >>>> Thanks again. >>>> Andy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:17 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>> >>>> >>>> Apple has a getting started guide, right when you turn on a new Mac. >>>> Just >>>> wait a minute or two then follow the spoken instructions. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> An IMac as in the Apple computer? If so there are Mac lists and stuff >>>>> but >>>>> you'd have to listen to a lot of podcasts and stuff because you must >>>>> then >>>>> now learn Mac OS. If I'm understanding the question correctly. I had >>>>> learned >>>>> Mac OS but I've gotten Rusty. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Andy >>>>> Logue >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:57 AM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Subject: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >>>>> >>>>> Hi all. >>>>> >>>>> I love everything audio concerning my computer. I've music, described >>>>> movies and talking books and I use programmes such as Goldwave to >>>>> record >>>>> streaming music. I also love burning the odd CD for a friend and >>>>> recently, >>>>> I've purchased a Zoom H6 digital recorder for even more interesting >>>>> audio >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> Many of my friends, who are not blind are telling me to buy the new >>>>> Imac >>>>> Retina and plug that into my AV and sound system. >>>>> >>>>> Any members use Imac for this sort ofstuff and is there any support >>>>> for a >>>>> new comer like myself about. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice would be very much appriciated. >>>>> >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ********** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >>> the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >> the halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> > > >
