No one platform is perfect, so the best is to have all three, windows, linux, and mac. I have found such an arrangement quite useful, one part of a website would only work with Safari and nothing else.
Tony <t...@k5twz.com> wrote: > Assuming the program developers care about voice over. What about all of the > "improvements that break previous voice over access? > > Just asking as I have also considered changing to a Mac but am leaning back > to the dreaded old PC. > > Tony > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:14 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > > He Guy's. I'm a Microsoft remember Ha? I understand nothing about Apple or > it's supports. I think, It's safe to assume however, that Apple will prove > very helpful. Just look at voice-over. Works out of the box on all products > for no extra cash. Not quite the Same as Microsoft and Freedom Scientific eh? > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" <hank.smith...@gmail.com> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > > > > also applevis is another good resource > > www.applevis.com > > > > On 3/22/2016 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Why do you need to go to all that trouble when Apple has all the up to > >> date documentation on their support pages? > >> > >> > >>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:50 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> No Dane, you misunderstand me my friend. What I was saying was that > >>> this guy Mike really knew his stuff back then and must be up to date > >>> with all the newer devices and OS. All I need do is contact someone > >>> like Rick at the Blind Geek Zone, who may well put me in touch with > >>> him. > >>> > >>> Very best wishes. > >>> Andy. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" > >>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> > >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:35 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>> > >>> > >>> 2011 was 5 years ago and much has changed since then so time to get hold > >>> of some updated information me thinks and I don’t care how good he > >>> sounds to listen to, accurate and up to date information is more > >>> important. > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:31 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Brian. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I was listening this morning to a Blind Cool Tech archive > >>>> concerning the Mac Demo 14, which was recorded in 2011, by a guy called > >>>> Mike Arrigo. I just loved listening to this guy speak and that of > >>>> course was almost five years ago. > >>>> > >>>> I've no doubt that If Mike has an up to date tutorial on the new imac > >>>> Retina, with some hard work, I'll learn the key-strokes This morning, > >>>> I was also in contact with an organisation in Glasgow who have an open > >>>> door policy to learning all Apple products. Aparently, all you do is > >>>> walk in the front door and you'll get a chance to feel and check-out > >>>> the item of your choice, which in my situation is a desk-top Mac. > >>>> > >>>> So I'm getting pretty excitted now about finding out more. Much more > >>>> excited than toing attending a Windows 10 demo, So my mind is clearly > >>>> made up, just need a little more cash now. > >>>> > >>>> Very best wishes. > >>>> > >>>> Andy. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk> > >>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:29 AM > >>>> Subject: SV: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> Interacting with things in mac OS requires quite a lot of key strokes > >>>> though. > >>>> On the winning side web browsing is a breeze on Mac. > >>>> > >>>> Brian > >>>> > >>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > >>>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Robert > >>>> Nelson > >>>> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 22:40 > >>>> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > >>>> Emne: RE: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Perhaps but you must understand that learning about Mac OS and > >>>> VoiceOver is > >>>> only the beginning. > >>>> > >>>> If you had no experience with windows, you would accept that the > >>>> awkward > >>>> way things are done in MAC OS is normal but with a little experience > >>>> of > >>>> windows you will find yourself trying to work out the mind set of those > >>>> who > >>>> devised the OS and VoiceOver. > >>>> > >>>> However, given your experience in windows you may find that something > >>>> like > >>>> audio editing has a steep learning curve. Yes, I know that Garage > >>>> Band, > >>>> Amadeus Pro and Twisted Wave are very good audio editing programs for > >>>> sighted people but for a blind person they can be very frustrating. > >>>> > >>>> The question you should be asking yourself is: is there anything that I > >>>> would want to do that can only be done on a Mac and, if so, is it > >>>> important > >>>> enough for you to justify the outlay, considering that most of the > >>>> things > >>>> you might want to do are possible through your I Phone. > >>>> > >>>> Anyhow, excuse me while I duck around the back to avoid the arrows and > >>>> flames of the Apple fans! > >>>> > >>>> Bob Nelson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy > >>>> Logue > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 5:46 AM > >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>>> > >>>> Hi Devon and Hamit. > >>>> > >>>> I've always wanted to check out a mac computer but because ive been so > >>>> brainwashed in Microsoft, I didn't have the self confidence to try it > >>>> out > >>>> for myself. > >>>> > >>>> What I was thinking was to keep my old Windows machine active for my > >>>> mail > >>>> and so on, but the Mac could sit alone in another room and if I spend > >>>> some > >>>> time each day, then I should be able to grasp the basic? eh? > >>>> Especially if > >>>> > >>>> I joined a blind mac list. > >>>> > >>>> One thing I have already found out that my Imac Store, which is in > >>>> glasgow, > >>>> will spend up to an hour with a new customer in the shop. Perhaps they > >>>> may > >>>> be interessted in offering me a little more start-up time, given my > >>>> blindness? Worth checking out eh? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for your ideas guys. For the meantime, I'm going to check out > >>>> everything I can on the Imac Retina on the webpage. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks again. > >>>> Andy. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> > >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:17 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Apple has a getting started guide, right when you turn on a new Mac. > >>>> Just > >>>> wait a minute or two then follow the spoken instructions. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> An IMac as in the Apple computer? If so there are Mac lists and stuff > >>>>> but > >>>>> you'd have to listen to a lot of podcasts and stuff because you must > >>>>> then > >>>>> now learn Mac OS. If I'm understanding the question correctly. I had > >>>>> learned > >>>>> Mac OS but I've gotten Rusty. > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > >>>>> Andy > >>>>> Logue > >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:57 AM > >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>> Subject: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi all. > >>>>> > >>>>> I love everything audio concerning my computer. I've music, described > >>>>> movies and talking books and I use programmes such as Goldwave to > >>>>> record > >>>>> streaming music. I also love burning the odd CD for a friend and > >>>>> recently, > >>>>> I've purchased a Zoom H6 digital recorder for even more interesting > >>>>> audio > >>>>> work. > >>>>> > >>>>> Many of my friends, who are not blind are telling me to buy the new > >>>>> Imac > >>>>> Retina and plug that into my AV and sound system. > >>>>> > >>>>> Any members use Imac for this sort ofstuff and is there any support > >>>>> for a > >>>>> new comer like myself about. > >>>>> > >>>>> Any advice would be very much appriciated. > >>>>> > >>>>> Very best wishes. > >>>>> Andy. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ********** > >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of > >>> the halfwits in this world behind. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ********** > >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of > >> the halfwits in this world behind. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
