2011 was 5 years ago and much has changed since then so time to get hold of 
some updated information me thinks and I don’t care how good he sounds to 
listen to, accurate and up to date information is more important.


> On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:31 PM, Andy Logue <andy.logue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian.
> 
> Yes, I was listening this morning to a Blind Cool Tech archive concerning the 
> Mac Demo 14, which was recorded in 2011, by a guy called Mike Arrigo.  I just 
> loved listening to this guy speak and that of course was almost five years 
> ago.
> 
> I've no doubt that If Mike has an up to date tutorial on the new imac Retina, 
> with some hard work, I'll learn the key-strokes  This morning, I was also in 
> contact with an organisation in Glasgow who have an open door policy to 
> learning all Apple products.  Aparently, all you do is walk in the front door 
> and you'll get a chance to feel and check-out the item of your choice, which 
> in my situation is a desk-top Mac.
> 
> So I'm getting pretty excitted now about finding out more.  Much more excited 
> than toing attending  a Windows 10 demo, So my mind is clearly made up, just 
> need a little more cash now.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:29 AM
> Subject: SV: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Interacting with things in mac OS requires quite a lot of key strokes
> though.
> On the winning side web browsing is a breeze on Mac.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Robert
> Nelson
> Sendt: 21. marts 2016 22:40
> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Emne: RE: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10
> 
> 
> Perhaps but you must understand that learning about Mac OS and VoiceOver is
> only the beginning.
> 
> If you had no experience with windows, you would accept  that the awkward
> way things are done in MAC OS  is normal but with a little experience of
> windows you will find yourself trying to work out the mind set of those who
> devised the OS and VoiceOver.
> 
> However, given your experience in windows you may find that something like
> audio editing  has a steep learning curve.  Yes, I know that Garage Band,
> Amadeus Pro and Twisted Wave are very good audio editing programs for
> sighted people but for a blind person they can be very frustrating.
> 
> The question you should be asking yourself is: is there anything that I
> would want to do that can only be done on a Mac and, if so, is it important
> enough for you to justify the outlay, considering that most of the things
> you might want to do are possible through your I Phone.
> 
> Anyhow, excuse me while I duck around the back to avoid the arrows and
> flames of the Apple fans!
> 
> Bob Nelson
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Logue
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 5:46 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10
> 
> Hi Devon and Hamit.
> 
> I've always wanted to check out a mac computer but because ive been so
> brainwashed in Microsoft, I didn't  have the self confidence to try it out
> for myself.
> 
> What I was thinking was to keep my old Windows machine active for my mail
> and so on, but the Mac could sit alone in another room and if I spend some
> time each day, then I should be able to grasp the basic?  eh?  Especially if
> 
> I joined a blind mac list.
> 
> One thing I have already found out that my Imac Store, which is in glasgow,
> will spend up to an hour with a new customer in the shop.  Perhaps they may
> be interessted in offering me a little more start-up time, given my
> blindness?  Worth checking out eh?
> 
> Thanks for your ideas guys.  For the meantime, I'm going to check out
> everything I can on the Imac Retina on the webpage.
> 
> Thanks again.
> Andy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10
> 
> 
> Apple has a getting started guide, right when you turn on a new Mac. Just
> wait a minute or two then follow the spoken instructions.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> An IMac as in the Apple computer? If so there are Mac lists and stuff but
>> you'd have to listen to a lot of podcasts and stuff because you must then
>> now learn Mac OS. If I'm understanding the question correctly. I had
>> learned
>> Mac OS but I've gotten Rusty.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
>> Logue
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:57 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I love everything audio concerning my computer.  I've music, described
>> movies and talking books and I use programmes such as Goldwave to record
>> streaming music.  I also love burning the odd CD for a friend and
>> recently,
>> I've purchased a Zoom H6 digital recorder for even more interesting audio
>> work.
>> 
>> Many of my friends, who are not blind are telling me to buy the new Imac
>> Retina and plug that into my AV and sound system.
>> 
>> Any members use Imac for this sort ofstuff and is there any support for a
>> new comer like myself about.
>> 
>> Any advice would be very much appriciated.
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> Andy.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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