Well I wanted a $3000 surround sound system already anyways.

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On Behalf Of Les Gordon
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface

i am researching the dennon receivers right now. so i'll post once i have
more info. they make 2 that are very interesting one is in the $2,000 range
and the other is in the $3,000 range.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:10 PM
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> Ah yeah, sound bars. I don't really believe in thoughs. You nead all 5
> speakers or 7 speakers there's no way out of it if you want the true 
> thing.
> Even the companion 5 ones I'm using are just 2 speakers and supposedly 
> they
> are 5.1. Fake 5.1 is what they are, exaggerated stereo is what it is. Nop,
> sorry, you need all the speakers if you want the true experience. So you
> have to choose, a pretty living room whith no wires every ware, or the 
> true
> theater experience. Maybe it's just me, but that's why I think they came 
> out
> with these kinds of things to start with. But anyways. That's for another
> thread. That's beyond the point of this one.
>
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> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Gary Wood
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:04 AM
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> Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
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> This has been a good thread, I think; but I heard that Yamaha has a 
> compact
> surround sound that's 5.1, but it all comes out of one speaker.  That's 
> hard
> to believe, unless all those chanels get wrapped inside the equipment?  It
> has all the settings it has on mine, and I believe it costs $1400.  I
> probably paid $11 or $1200 for mine,  and the total wattage is 100.  Now
> Bose has something called Accustomass receiver.  That's supposed to have
> surround sound too.  I heard it once, and I thought it sounded pretty good
> for it's size.  It costs $1400.   It has the array in the middle front 
> with
> speakers in it, I assume, and they said on t their website that the sides
> are Gemstone speakers.  I'm not sure what they are.  Beelieve it or not.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:25 AM
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>
>> Yeah, he's right from what I've heard too. Don't forget though I'm
>> talking channals. So, how would one pan al of these and assign them to
>> all these speakers? Until that's figured out, I don't get the point of
>> having so many speakers. I mean, there already are disagreements about
>> 7.1 being done right or at all, there are no 9.2 movies yet. But yeah
>> any ways, I'm just wandering is all.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Gary Wood
>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:45 AM
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>> Well I think I heard once that in a recording studio, there's at least
>> 16 tracks that are recorded.  I talked to a fellow I know who makes
>> music from time to time, and he said that there's no limits to how
>> many tracks that can be recorded in a piece.  I think it makes sense
>> to me.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:36 AM
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>>
>>> Well, to be honest, maybe I'm wrong, but I think that to really
>>> replicate your hearing you would have to do 13.1. In other words,
>>> have high frunts like you do, high sides, and high rears. I mean, you
>>> hear things from above too right? But they would have to figure out
>>> how to pan things vertically straight up or down. Which would also
>>> mean more audio tracks as well. I don't know does this sound right or
> what?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
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>>> On Behalf Of Les Gordon
>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:35 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>
>>> right now i'm running a 9.2 setup. theres front high channels and
>>> rear center channels then your effect channels. the sound quality is
>>> dependent upon the dvd. if you want to test a system. the roy orbison
>>> dvd called black white night is beyond amazing. you hear sounds from
>>> every speaker/channel, the regular dvd as well as the blu ray is just
>>> beyond amazing. if you love that type of music thats a must to have.
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:26 PM
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>>>
>>>> Interesting. I'll have to listen to it my self I guess. We'll see.
>>>>
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>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:30 PM
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>>>> Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>>
>>>> Whether there are discrete separate channels or merely reassigned
>>>> portions, it still gives a slightly more immersive sound.
>>>>
>>>> They are now offering 7.2 channels with some receivers.  I think the
>>>> second speaker in back sits up higher to again give more depth and
>>>> location signature.  I haven't heard such a set up to tell though.
>>>>
>>>> Even with my old 5.1 disks, the sound seems fuller even if it's not
>>>> really.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:07 AM
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>>>> Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>>
>>>> Ah okay then. Cool. I would be using BDs though. I guess the point
>>>> of what those guys say is as follows. Let's take Jurrasic Park for
>>>> an example. We all know the movie was recorded in 5.1, there fore
>>>> there are only 5 different files assigned to the 5 different
>>>> speakers. They didn't really add anything new assignments for the 2
>>>> extra, so I guess what they are saying even with your example is you
>>>> are hearing the same thing you've always heard out of the 2 side
>>>> speakers I guess it would be, but now from the back too?
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> don't know, like I have said, I haven't really experienced this my 
>>>> self.
>>>> My
>>>> friend who has a 7.1 system lives too far to just say, let's go over
>>>> to Tims and see what's true and what's not. But what I'm saying is,
>>>> I don't know, maybe I should  consider a 7.1 system if it is true
>>>> and then I do miss out on stuff. I don't know. If any of you have
>>>> heard a
>>>> 7.1 movie, please let me know either here or off list if it really
>>>> true, or if it's just marketing hipe like those guys say.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Les Gordon
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:04 AM
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>>>> Subject: Re: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>>
>>>> hi, right now i am running a onkyo 9.2 system and the extra speakers
>>>> are clearly worth it. if a dvd isnt 7.1 or 9.2 recorded, the
>>>> receivers can convert to whatever format your running. the sound is
>> absolutely amazing.
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I've been paying attention to this thread too, because
>>>>> even though I really like Bose, I too have been looking at what
>>>>> Onkyo and Yamaha have and what others may have because Bose doesn't
>>>>> do 7.1 surround sound. As you may or may not know, there are a lot
>>>>> of Blu-Rays that are 7.1 channaled.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> some people have said that it's foney, in other words there's no
>>>>> true
>>>>> 7.1 surround sound, but I haven't heard it myself to be truly sure
>>>>> if it is fake or not. I would also think that if it were fake,
>>>>> people wouldn't hav it.
>>>>> Wouldn't people say something about it? Because then it would
>>>>> really mean like those people that insist it's fake say, that
>>>>> you're buying
>>>>> 2 more speakers for nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:58 AM
>>>>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>>>>> Subject: AV Receivers with accessible web interface
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info on the Denon AVR.  I had looked at Yamaha and
>>>>> Onkyo but will definitely see what the Denon offerings are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Norma
>>>>>
>>>>>
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