Hi, Have you ever tried to use "god mode" idea on your Windows 7 machine? I found it useful to the degree for my needs. It is definitely easier to get to a lot of configuration components of your operating system using this. Hth, Pawel.
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:49 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through? I have no problem with sound management in XP. But if Microsoft doesn't fix the problems it created in Vista and 7, I may switch to, or at least add a Mac. I can't stick with XP forever. Although i know many people stuck with OS 9 practically forever because there was no ProTools support in OS X. In fact, no screen reader support at all in OS X for years and years. I don't want to be in that same position with XP. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:59 AM Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through? >I have already answered the question in my first post actually so no, >the question wasn't ignored so I'll repeat what I've already said and >I'll explain a a little further so as to avoid any further confusion <smile>. > > Yes, by default a Mac can certainly capture and record sources without > Voiceover interfering so in other words you can run your Screen reader > without any fear of it conflicting with any incoming software streams. > > The process of "Capturing" is known in the Mac world commonly as > "Hijacking" but both terms pretty much mean the same thing. > > I use a piece of software here called Audio Hijack Pro which pretty > much does everything that Total Recorder does, only thing it won't do > is edit audio files but it can be integrated with an audio editor on the mac. > > You can "hijack" as many sources as you need at once and you can even > "Mix" those sources together if you want to, this makes software such > as Skype easy to monitor for example, I know people in call centres > who use a Mac with Audio Hijack Pro and Skype, using some simple Apple > scripts running with Audio Hijack Pro, they can monitor the call plus > log information regarding the call, say date and time, length of call > etc but I'm rambling. > > > On 19/09/2011, at 5:52 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote: > >> Since the response contained no answer to the simple question asked, >> I'll try again. Also, remember the subject of this thread is: >> "recording sound without the screen reader coming through." >> With that in mind, can you record a stream on a Mac without recording >> Voiceover, or do you need to use 2 sound cards? >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:25 AM >> Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through? >> >> >>> Depends on how you look at it, from my own personal experience - and >>> I expect 99% people to disagree with me as they've probably never >>> laid a hand on a Mac let alone record audio/video on one - the Mac >>> presents a far better alternative to recording all round than does >>> the Windows PC these days and I won't bother arguing the why's and >>> the wherefore's here but I will say that I've been using my Mac >>> machines for 5 years and PC's for longer, I use both and both >>> systems have good and bad points but if you're looking at audio? >>> Well the Mac thrashes the PC quite frankly as far as accessible >>> recording software goes and recording software that actually and successfully does what its designed to do. >>> >>> As stated, its not the fault of the people at High Criteria, they've >>> done their level best with Total Recorder and associated products >>> and no doubt about it! Total Recorder is a fine piece of software, >>> those who read the list will in fact know that Total Recorder is one >>> of those tools I have in my Audio Toolbox when using a PC. >>> >>> >>> On 19/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote: >>> >>>> Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve >>>> with a $20 sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these issues. >>>> But just to be clear, you can record a stream, and still use >>>> Voiceover without getting Voiceover in the recording. Is that right? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM >>>> Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons >>>>> why I switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management >>>>> of audio is far better, easier to capture sound from another piece >>>>> of software, device etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but >>>>>> it will work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the >>>>>> recorder, or the reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going >>>>>> to exit my screen reader and leave the stream recording, setting >>>>>> goldwave to record for 2 hours and 3 minutes, the archived stream >>>>>> is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i know, because the quality >>>>>> isn't going to be perfect, but the music will be there. The site >>>>>> I want to record from has changed their archiving method from >>>>>> windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an embeded >>>>>> javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't found >>>>>> anything that can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's >>>>>> this freecorder add on that I installed but it doesn't look >>>>>> accessible. any thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I >>>>>> don't know enough java, I know no java programming, I just looked at the source of the page of the media player. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave c. bahr >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote: >>>>>>> In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and >>>>>>> continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows >>>>>>> processes sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the >>>>>>> screen reader from the stream you want to record. The only way >>>>>>> is to use background recording, which only works with some >>>>>>> streams, or use one sound card for your screen reader, and a 2nd >>>>>>> sound card for recording. . ----- Original Message ----- From: >>>>>>> "Dave Bahr" <dcba...@gmail.com> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>>>>>> <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:15 >>>>>>> PM Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming >>>>>>> through? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to >>>>>>> > record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this >>>>>>> > internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select >>>>>>> > my soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound >>>>>>> > source I want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way >>>>>>> > to do it, running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total >>>>>>> > recorder. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Dave c. bahr >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>> > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org