I have no problem with sound management in XP. But if Microsoft doesn't fix
the problems it created in Vista and 7, I may switch to, or at least add a
Mac. I can't stick with XP forever. Although i know many people stuck with
OS 9 practically forever because there was no ProTools support in OS X. In
fact, no screen reader support at all in OS X for years and years. I don't
want to be in that same position with XP.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
I have already answered the question in my first post actually so no, the
question wasn't ignored so I'll repeat what I've already said and I'll
explain a a little further so as to avoid any further confusion <smile>.
Yes, by default a Mac can certainly capture and record sources without
Voiceover interfering so in other words you can run your Screen reader
without any fear of it conflicting with any incoming software streams.
The process of "Capturing" is known in the Mac world commonly as
"Hijacking" but both terms pretty much mean the same thing.
I use a piece of software here called Audio Hijack Pro which pretty much
does everything that Total Recorder does, only thing it won't do is edit
audio files but it can be integrated with an audio editor on the mac.
You can "hijack" as many sources as you need at once and you can even
"Mix" those sources together if you want to, this makes software such as
Skype easy to monitor for example, I know people in call centres who use a
Mac with Audio Hijack Pro and Skype, using some simple Apple scripts
running with Audio Hijack Pro, they can monitor the call plus log
information regarding the call, say date and time, length of call etc but
I'm rambling.
On 19/09/2011, at 5:52 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Since the response contained no answer to the simple question asked, I'll
try again. Also, remember the subject of this thread is:
"recording sound without the screen reader coming through."
With that in mind, can you record a stream on a Mac without recording
Voiceover, or do you need to use 2 sound cards?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
Depends on how you look at it, from my own personal experience - and I
expect 99% people to disagree with me as they've probably never laid a
hand on a Mac let alone record audio/video on one - the Mac presents a
far better alternative to recording all round than does the Windows PC
these days and I won't bother arguing the why's and the wherefore's here
but I will say that I've been using my Mac machines for 5 years and PC's
for longer, I use both and both systems have good and bad points but if
you're looking at audio? Well the Mac thrashes the PC quite frankly as
far as accessible recording software goes and recording software that
actually and successfully does what its designed to do.
As stated, its not the fault of the people at High Criteria, they've
done their level best with Total Recorder and associated products and no
doubt about it! Total Recorder is a fine piece of software, those who
read the list will in fact know that Total Recorder is one of those
tools I have in my Audio Toolbox when using a PC.
On 19/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve with
a $20 sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these issues.
But just to be clear, you can record a stream, and still use Voiceover
without getting Voiceover in the recording. Is that right?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons why I
switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management of audio is
far better, easier to capture sound from another piece of software,
device etc.
On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it
will work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder,
or the reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my
screen reader and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to
record for 2 hours and 3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours
long. It's not ideal, i know, because the quality isn't going to be
perfect, but the music will be there. The site I want to record from
has changed their archiving method from windows media .asx playlist
files to what looks like an embeded javascript player. I have firefox
and so far haven't found anything that can record an audio stream
just in firefox. there's this freecorder add on that I installed but
it doesn't look accessible. any thoughts on this? again, it's a crude
plan but I don't know enough java, I know no java programming, I just
looked at the source of the page of the media player.
Dave c. bahr
On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use
background
recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -----
Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bahr" <dcba...@gmail.com> To: "PC
Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday,
September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
screen reader coming through?
> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
> soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source
> I
> want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
> running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>
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>
>
> Dave c. bahr
>
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