So, it sounds like your're saying that in tthe 21st century all books,
music, DVS movies should be free to whoever wants to download it? Or that
when you purchase the book you have the right to distribute it whenever you
want and to whomever you want with nothing else going to the author?
----- Original Message -----
From: "mitchell" <mitchellgre...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Amen
Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Well, then, folks are just going to have to look for alternatives. Which
means more of that stuff you call stealing. Either way, the government
still
gets it wrong and BARD only further proves why 20th century business
practices don't work in a 21st century industry.
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But Bard is funded by Congress, not exactly the most liberal or
understanding of organizations. If they hear from their "constituants"
not
generally us, they'll pull the plug.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <ja...@the-jdh.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Sure, if you believe BARD. Unfortunately, they're borrowing talking
points from the recording industry. And those talking points have been
debunked 6 ways from Sunday.
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On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like
Bard will be the elimination of the service.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <ja...@the-jdh.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on
in the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact
same reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your
hands on something, whether you have legal access to do so or not,
you're going to want to do whatever you want with that something.
Either put it on a CD, or copy it to something smaller than your
Victor Reader, or any number of things. And if someone wants to burn
that book to a CD, or do something else with it that BARD has decided
they're not allowed to, even though they have legal access to it,
people are just going to find less legal means to do so.
Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people
should be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest
of the world and actually give people a choice as to what to do with
their acquisitions.
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify
for their service by being blind and having a player that they
authroize.
There
is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare
type services.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mitchell" <mitchellgre...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use
bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books.
Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am
concerned.
Mitchell
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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
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Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing."
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you
download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it?
Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and
audio books without having to pay a dime for it.
Explain that one to me, if you can!
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <t...@pc-audio.org>
To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: It's Still Stealing
It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to
copy it.
Tom
** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
>High Tom,
>I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to
do it.
>If he says yes, then I do it.
>But if he says no, then it doesn't happen.
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