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-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:46 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing and who determines if the media is overpriced? Just because you think something is overpriced doesn't give you the right to steal it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 4/18/2010 12:41 PM, mitchell wrote: > That apsulootly the trooth, and the other thing that causes the same thing > is the over prising of meedia. If someone can't aford it they will do what > they have to do to have it. > Mitchell > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of James Homuth > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:01 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download your > copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal > authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that copy. Not > only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even the > most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example of > iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours. Apple no > longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn them to a > CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true with BARD. And it's > business models like that that convince people to do things you would call > stealing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell > Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing > > but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mitchell"<mitchellgre...@gmail.com> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > > >> That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and down >> load >> the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is tom or >> anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it >> steeling? >> Mitchell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of James Homuth >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing >> >> Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried >> limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on in >> the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same >> reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on >> something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're going to >> want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a CD, >> or >> copy it to something smaller than your Victor Reader, or any number of >> things. And if someone wants to burn that book to a CD, or do something >> else >> with it that BARD has decided they're not allowed to, even though they >> have >> legal access to it, people are just going to find less legal means to do >> so. >> Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people >> should >> be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest of the world >> and actually give people a choice as to what to do with their >> acquisitions. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell >> Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >> >> But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for >> their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. >> There >> is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type >> services. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mitchell"<mitchellgre...@gmail.com> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM >> Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing >> >> >> >>> I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use >>> bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books. >>> Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am >>> concerned. >>> Mitchell >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >>> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P >>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >>> >>> Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing." >>> Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you >>> download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it? >>> Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and >>> audio books without having to pay a dime for it. >>> Explain that one to me, if you can! >>> John. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom"<t...@pc-audio.org> >>> To:<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM >>> Subject: It's Still Stealing >>> >>> >>> >>>> It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to >>>> copy it. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> ** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P ** >>>> >>>>> High Tom, >>>>> I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to >>>>> >>>> do it. >>>> >>>>> If he says yes, then I do it. >>>>> But if he says no, then it doesn't happen. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
