I agree with that I was just trying to ilistrate the point that if you use something that you have permition to that it is not seeling. Espeshelly if the have the copprite rites to that mateeral. I will not steel anything that is not mine, and don't think that is rite. I was trying to make the point. Mitchell
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing BARD is not a business or a company and doesn't need to update it's business model. When you sign up with the NLS and the BARD service in particular, you agree to certain terms. It's agreeing to these terms that gives you legal access to the content you download. Just because you don't want to follow those terms, and it's easy not to, doesn't make it legal. Besides, I have quite a few more options now, which I appreciate, than I did with the analog model used by the NLS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 4/18/2010 10:36 AM, James Homuth wrote: > Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried > limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on in > the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same > reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on > something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're going to > want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a CD, or > copy it to something smaller than your Victor Reader, or any number of > things. And if someone wants to burn that book to a CD, or do something else > with it that BARD has decided they're not allowed to, even though they have > legal access to it, people are just going to find less legal means to do so. > Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people should > be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest of the world > and actually give people a choice as to what to do with their acquisitions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell > Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing > > But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for > their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. There > is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type > services. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mitchell"<mitchellgre...@gmail.com> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > > >> I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use >> bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books. >> Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am >> concerned. >> Mitchell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >> >> Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing." >> Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you >> download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it? >> Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and >> audio books without having to pay a dime for it. >> Explain that one to me, if you can! >> John. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom"<t...@pc-audio.org> >> To:<pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM >> Subject: It's Still Stealing >> >> >> >>> It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to >>> copy it. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> ** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P ** >>> >>>> High Tom, >>>> I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to >>>> >>> do it. >>> >>>> If he says yes, then I do it. >>>> But if he says no, then it doesn't happen. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
