Hi Gordon. When you have a file of a record with lots of pops, clicks and 
overall surface noise, try the impulse filters first. They make a great 
first step and they work especially well when you are dealing with the 
entire file as you and I are.

Larry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


> Hi Larry
> I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters. It's
> time to get to grips with them!
> Gordon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>
>
>>I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us
>> present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.
>>
>> Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also
>> excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.
>>
>> I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I
>> haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>
>>
>>> Larry
>>> I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal
>>> preset
>>> in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
>>> problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also
>>> excellent -
>>> there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion
>>> along
>>> with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7
>>> claims
>>> to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have 
>>> their
>>> audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using
>>> noise
>>> reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor
>>> here
>>> but it's good.
>>>
>>> The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program
>>> are
>>> as follows:
>>> 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
>>> Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm
>>> really
>>> stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second
>>> or
>>> two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole
>>> file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time
>>> sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in
>>> DC7
>>> I
>>> then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
>>> 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where
>>> you
>>> can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once
>>> rather
>>> than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and
>>> make
>>> a thorough and quicker difference.
>>>
>>> 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the
>>> 'fine
>>> tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the
>>> Jaws
>>> cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the
>>> particular
>>> area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this
>>> I'll
>>> place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview 
>>> button,
>>> once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets,
>>> thus
>>> hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much
>>> problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing
>>> package
>>> and so worth all this trouble.
>>>
>>> Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to
>>> home
>>> in on clicks and zap them.
>>> Regards.
>>> Gordon
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
>>>> interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an
>>>> in
>>>> between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue 
>>>> that
>>>> pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over
>>>> an
>>>> entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero
>>>> in
>>>> on
>>>> small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
>>>> I'm
>>>> really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
>>>> software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way
>>>> Dane
>>>> does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get
>>>> closer
>>>> to
>>>> that than I am now.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
>>>> further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see 
>>>> that
>>>> someone else thinks so too.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Larry
>>>>> Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
>>>>> navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
>>>>> Gordon----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support 
>>>>>> staff
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
>>>>>> offering
>>>>>> them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>> It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each
>>>>>> program's
>>>>>> strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present,
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the
>>>>>> least.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> comes to "how to" questions which I have posted where and when
>>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>> I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks 
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>> Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> High Larry,
>>>>>>> Yes I did.
>>>>>>> I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to
>>>>>>> yesterday,
>>>>>>> said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
>>>>>>> That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
>>>>>>> But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
>>>>>>>  John.
>>>>>>> PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU
>>>>>>> meter
>>>>>>> without any sighted assistance?----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>> very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the
>>>>>>>> DC7
>>>>>>>> demo?
>>>>>>>> It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
>>>>>>>> required
>>>>>>>> to either give it up or open your wallet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
>>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>>> standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> see what you can do with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello list members,
>>>>>>>>> I went to:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
>>>>>>>>> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio
>>>>>>>>> editing
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> restoring.
>>>>>>>>> They are called DC-6 and DC7.
>>>>>>>>> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws 
>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>>>>> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this
>>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>>> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> problems, but the rest of it had problems.
>>>>>>>>> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> DC-7?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>  John.
>>>>>>>>> PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
>>>>>>>>> Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your
>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
>>>>>>>>> That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack
>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>>> later on down the road.
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