Hi Gordon. When you have a file of a record with lots of pops, clicks and overall surface noise, try the impulse filters first. They make a great first step and they work especially well when you are dealing with the entire file as you and I are.
Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts > Hi Larry > I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters. It's > time to get to grips with them! > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM > Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts > > >>I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us >> present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway. >> >> Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also >> excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks. >> >> I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I >> haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day. >> >> Larry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >> >> >>> Larry >>> I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal >>> preset >>> in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various >>> problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also >>> excellent - >>> there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion >>> along >>> with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7 >>> claims >>> to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have >>> their >>> audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using >>> noise >>> reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor >>> here >>> but it's good. >>> >>> The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program >>> are >>> as follows: >>> 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard >>> Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm >>> really >>> stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second >>> or >>> two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole >>> file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time >>> sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in >>> DC7 >>> I >>> then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out. >>> 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where >>> you >>> can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once >>> rather >>> than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and >>> make >>> a thorough and quicker difference. >>> >>> 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the >>> 'fine >>> tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the >>> Jaws >>> cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the >>> particular >>> area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this >>> I'll >>> place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview >>> button, >>> once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets, >>> thus >>> hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much >>> problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing >>> package >>> and so worth all this trouble. >>> >>> Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to >>> home >>> in on clicks and zap them. >>> Regards. >>> Gordon >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>> >>> >>>>I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be >>>> interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an >>>> in >>>> between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue >>>> that >>>> pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over >>>> an >>>> entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero >>>> in >>>> on >>>> small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge, >>>> I'm >>>> really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows >>>> software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way >>>> Dane >>>> does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get >>>> closer >>>> to >>>> that than I am now. >>>> >>>> In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen >>>> with >>>> an >>>> entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program >>>> further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see >>>> that >>>> someone else thinks so too. >>>> >>>> Larry >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Larry >>>>> Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more >>>>> navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes. >>>>> Gordon----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support >>>>>> staff >>>>>> is >>>>>> that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users >>>>>> offering >>>>>> them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive >>>>>> when >>>>>> it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the >>>>>> issue >>>>>> is >>>>>> accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect >>>>>> when >>>>>> it >>>>>> comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play >>>>>> with >>>>>> every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also >>>>>> offer >>>>>> phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for >>>>>> something. >>>>>> It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But >>>>>> for >>>>>> my >>>>>> money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each >>>>>> program's >>>>>> strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, >>>>>> with >>>>>> all >>>>>> due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the >>>>>> least. >>>>>> It >>>>>> is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers >>>>>> when >>>>>> it >>>>>> comes to "how to" questions which I have posted where and when >>>>>> appropriate. >>>>>> I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks >>>>>> use >>>>>> Sound >>>>>> Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this >>>>>> is >>>>>> only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that >>>>>> I've >>>>>> found. >>>>>> >>>>>> Larry >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> High Larry, >>>>>>> Yes I did. >>>>>>> I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to >>>>>>> yesterday, >>>>>>> said that it had a lot of graphics in it. >>>>>>> That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts. >>>>>>> But I see now, that they aren't really needed. >>>>>>> John. >>>>>>> PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU >>>>>>> meter >>>>>>> without any sighted assistance?----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> Jaws >>>>>>>> very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the >>>>>>>> DC7 >>>>>>>> demo? >>>>>>>> It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're >>>>>>>> required >>>>>>>> to either give it up or open your wallet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an >>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>> standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> see what you can do with it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Larry >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello list members, >>>>>>>>> I went to: >>>>>>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp >>>>>>>>> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio >>>>>>>>> editing >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> restoring. >>>>>>>>> They are called DC-6 and DC7. >>>>>>>>> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws >>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>> friendly. >>>>>>>>> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this >>>>>>>>> software. >>>>>>>>> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> problems, but the rest of it had problems. >>>>>>>>> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> DC-7? >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>> PS. 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