Hi Larry
I've tried much of DC7 but I've never understood the Impulse filters. It's 
time to get to grips with them!
Gordon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


>I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us
> present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.
>
> Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also
> excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.
>
> I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I
> haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>
>
>> Larry
>> I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal
>> preset
>> in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
>> problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also
>> excellent -
>> there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion 
>> along
>> with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7
>> claims
>> to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have their
>> audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using
>> noise
>> reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor
>> here
>> but it's good.
>>
>> The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program
>> are
>> as follows:
>> 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
>> Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm 
>> really
>> stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second
>> or
>> two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole
>> file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time
>> sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in 
>> DC7
>> I
>> then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
>> 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where 
>> you
>> can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once 
>> rather
>> than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and
>> make
>> a thorough and quicker difference.
>>
>> 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the 
>> 'fine
>> tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the 
>> Jaws
>> cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the
>> particular
>> area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this
>> I'll
>> place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview button,
>> once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets,
>> thus
>> hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much
>> problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing 
>> package
>> and so worth all this trouble.
>>
>> Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to 
>> home
>> in on clicks and zap them.
>> Regards.
>> Gordon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>
>>
>>>I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
>>> interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an
>>> in
>>> between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue that
>>> pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over
>>> an
>>> entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero 
>>> in
>>> on
>>> small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
>>> I'm
>>> really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
>>> software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way 
>>> Dane
>>> does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get 
>>> closer
>>> to
>>> that than I am now.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen 
>>> with
>>> an
>>> entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
>>> further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see that
>>> someone else thinks so too.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Larry
>>>> Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
>>>> navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
>>>> Gordon----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff
>>>>> is
>>>>> that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
>>>>> offering
>>>>> them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
>>>>> when
>>>>> it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the
>>>>> issue
>>>>> is
>>>>> accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect
>>>>> when
>>>>> it
>>>>> comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play
>>>>> with
>>>>> every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also
>>>>> offer
>>>>> phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for
>>>>> something.
>>>>> It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But
>>>>> for
>>>>> my
>>>>> money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each 
>>>>> program's
>>>>> strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, 
>>>>> with
>>>>> all
>>>>> due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the
>>>>> least.
>>>>> It
>>>>> is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when
>>>>> it
>>>>> comes to "how to" questions which I have posted where and when
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>> I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use
>>>>> Sound
>>>>> Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this
>>>>> is
>>>>> only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that
>>>>> I've
>>>>> found.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> High Larry,
>>>>>> Yes I did.
>>>>>> I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to
>>>>>> yesterday,
>>>>>> said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
>>>>>> That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
>>>>>> But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
>>>>>>  John.
>>>>>> PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU
>>>>>> meter
>>>>>> without any sighted assistance?----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with
>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>> very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the
>>>>>>> DC7
>>>>>>> demo?
>>>>>>> It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
>>>>>>> required
>>>>>>> to either give it up or open your wallet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>> standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> see what you can do with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello list members,
>>>>>>>> I went to:
>>>>>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
>>>>>>>> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio 
>>>>>>>> editing
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> restoring.
>>>>>>>> They are called DC-6 and DC7.
>>>>>>>> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
>>>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>>>> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this
>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins 
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> problems, but the rest of it had problems.
>>>>>>>> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> DC-7?
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>  John.
>>>>>>>> PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
>>>>>>>> Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your
>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>> Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
>>>>>>>> That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> later on down the road.
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