I like your workarounds and your suggested changes. Perhaps if both of us 
present them, the ideas might carry more weight. Worth a try anyway.

Have you tried the cassette hiss filters. The impulse filters are also 
excellent for getting rid of pops and clicks.

I've heard a lot about audition 1.5 and I'd love to work with it, but I 
haven't been able to get my hands on a copy. Maybe one day.

Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts


> Larry
> I'm sure you'll know about the automatic scratch hiss and hum removal 
> preset
> in DC6 and 7. It actually can be pretty good at adjusting to various
> problems over a large file. The noise reduction presets are also 
> excellent -
> there's usually something which works. The compression and expansion along
> with the general exciter presets are varied and excellent. Version 7 
> claims
> to get rid of the many sound artifacts which can occur. I also have their
> audio mentor which interfaces with the main program linking and using 
> noise
> reduction and exciter presets effectively. I've to use the jaws cursor 
> here
> but it's good.
>
> The couple of problems we have in not having a fully accessible program 
> are
> as follows:
> 1. The file navigation and selection tools need linking into standard
> Windows keypresses, as in Audition and Gold Wave. At present if I'm really
> stuck I'll take a noise sample from the file in Audition - just a second 
> or
> two - then analyse it in DC7, make a preset, then apply it to the whole
> file. Similarly if I'm really stuck I'll break the whole file into time
> sections which I take careful note of and after performing cleaning in DC7 
> I
> then rebuild the file so as not to be one frame out.
> 2. The other place I would like access to is the multitab editor where you
> can chain a variety of effects so that they are all applied at once rather
> than just one at a time. You can then put together your favourites and 
> make
> a thorough and quicker difference.
>
> 3. The preset boxes are pretty good but it would be good to have the 'fine
> tuning' sliders more easy to work. At present they will work with the Jaws
> cursor but it would be good to make adjustments by tabbing to the 
> particular
> area and making changes which you can hear instantly. To get round this 
> I'll
> place the Jaws cursor in the preset combo box, tab to the preview button,
> once it has started use the jaws cursor to go down the list of presets, 
> thus
> hearing each effect on the file in turn. It does work with not too much
> problem. As you say it's a wonderfully comprehensive sound editing package
> and so worth all this trouble.
>
> Have you tried Audition 1.5 (old now but effective) I can use this to home
> in on clicks and zap them.
> Regards.
> Gordon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>
>
>>I agree, and maybe between the two of us and anyone else who might be
>> interested, we could get them to make some changes, perhaps even for an 
>> in
>> between upgrade that is released mainly to correct some other issue that
>> pops up. Like you, I work with the program when I can make changes over 
>> an
>> entire file. Meanwhile, if while using DC6 for entire files I can zero in
>> on
>> small sections of a file using either GoldWave, WavePad or Sound Forge,
>> I'm
>> really interested in learning how. I don't think there's any windows
>> software that allows you to key in to a small part of a file the way Dane
>> does with the Mac program that he talks about, but I'd like to get closer
>> to
>> that than I am now.
>>
>> In the meantime, I very much like the changes that I can make happen with
>> an
>> entire file when using DC7. I do see the capability to push the program
>> further than I could DC6 and I already liked DC6 a lot. Nice to see that
>> someone else thinks so too.
>>
>> Larry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>
>>
>>> Hi Larry
>>> Hear, hear. I like DC7 but just wish files imported into it were more
>>> navigable. You're right however the staff are keen to make changes.
>>> Gordon----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>
>>>
>>>> John, one thing you're dealing with when it comes to DC7 support staff
>>>> is
>>>> that they don't know a lot about screen reader specific issues. Part of
>>>> the
>>>> problem there is that they just haven't had a lot of blind users
>>>> offering
>>>> them feedback. On the plus side, I've found them to be very proactive
>>>> when
>>>> it comes to their willingness to support their product, whether the
>>>> issue
>>>> is
>>>> accessibility or something else. To me, that is an important aspect 
>>>> when
>>>> it
>>>> comes to whether or not I purchase a product. DC7 allows you to play
>>>> with
>>>> every aspect of the program for ten days before buying it. They also
>>>> offer
>>>> phone and email support even for demos. For me, that counts for
>>>> something.
>>>> It may not be the only audio editing program you will ever need. But 
>>>> for
>>>> my
>>>> money, I would submit that there is no such thing. I use each program's
>>>> strengths to accomplish what I need to accomplish. And at present, with
>>>> all
>>>> due respect to Sound Forge users, it is the program that I use the
>>>> least.
>>>> It
>>>> is also the program that, for me, has generated the fewest ansers when
>>>> it
>>>> comes to "how to" questions which I have posted where and when
>>>> appropriate.
>>>> I make these observations with the full knowledge that other folks use
>>>> Sound
>>>> Forge exclusivey. I'm just sharing the oppinion that for me, and this 
>>>> is
>>>> only for me, DC7 and Goldwave make the best possible combination that
>>>> I've
>>>> found.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> High Larry,
>>>>> Yes I did.
>>>>> I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the guy I spoke to
>>>>> yesterday,
>>>>> said that it had a lot of graphics in it.
>>>>> That's what got me thinking about Jaws scripts.
>>>>> But I see now, that they aren't really needed.
>>>>>  John.
>>>>> PS. Is there a way that a totally blind person can monitor the VU 
>>>>> meter
>>>>> without any sighted assistance?----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi John. Have you downloaded the demo? I haven't used DC 6 or 7 with
>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>> very much, but they work well with Window-eyes. Have you tried the 
>>>>>> DC7
>>>>>> demo?
>>>>>> It is a fully functional demo which works for 10 days before you're
>>>>>> required
>>>>>> to either give it up or open your wallet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An important note, DC7 offers more functionality and from an
>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>> standpoint it works the same as DC6. I would suggest downloading it
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> see what you can do with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Other Audio Editors And Jaws Scripts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello list members,
>>>>>>> I went to:
>>>>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp
>>>>>>> and I was looking at 2 different types of software for audio editing
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> restoring.
>>>>>>> They are called DC-6 and DC7.
>>>>>>> I called them and asked them if any of their software was Jaws user
>>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>>> When the guy I spoke too said something to me about graphics, I
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> myself, Jaw scripts will be needed in order for me to use this
>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>> He did say however, that blind people have used the plug ins without
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> problems, but the rest of it had problems.
>>>>>>> But my real question is, can Jaw scripts be written for both DC-6 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> DC-7?
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>  John.
>>>>>>> PS. DC-7 according to the website, just came out.
>>>>>>> Either one can give you the sound of vacuum tube equipment on your
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>> Sorry Mack owners/users, this software is strictly for PC's.
>>>>>>> That's my only disappointment about it because I'm getting a Mack
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> later on down the road.
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