which Sigmatel card is that.  I just got this computer last June and the 
card in it is the "SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
 and all it shows in the record section under properties is line-in and 
microphone.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> actually the newer sigmatel cards do have the stereo mix feature in them
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that 
>> feature
>> so you willl need a program like total recorder.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
>>> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix
>>> options,
>>>
>>> Billy,
>>> Dinky Doo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through your
>>>> sound card.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
>>>>> play
>>>>> the
>>>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you are
>>>>> in
>>>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>>>> winamp,
>>>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and start
>>>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>>>> Sorry about this,
>>>>> Billy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start Gold
>>>>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing my
>>>>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold Wave. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m to
>>>>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because you
>>>>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>>>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so on,
>>>>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>>>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb plugin
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
>>>>>> music
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>>>>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go into
>>>>>>> goldwave
>>>>>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>>>>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the finished
>>>>>>> project?.
>>>>>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the music
>>>>>>> >track
>>>>>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold Wave.
>>>>>>> > There
>>>>>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Bruce
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -- 
>>>>>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>>>>>> > gave
>>>>>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Bruce Toews
>>>>>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>>>>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing 
>>>>>>> >> track,
>>>>>>> >> but
>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>>>>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in sound
>>>>>>> >> on
>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>> >> mother board.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>>>>>> >> Billy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my
>>>>>>> >>> radio
>>>>>>> >>> shows
>>>>>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Bruce
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name,
>>>>>>> >>> he
>>>>>>> >>> gave
>>>>>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: 
>>>>>>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just
>>>>>>> >>>> started
>>>>>>> >>>> donig
>>>>>>> >>>> this sometime last year.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>> >>>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> >>>> skype: marrie1
>>>>>>> >>>> Website;
>>>>>>> >>>> www.marrie.org
>>>>>>> >>>> To check out my podcast go to
>>>>>>> >>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>>>>> >>>> For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast
>>>>>>> >>>> check
>>>>>>> >>>> out
>>>>>>> >>>> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>>>>>> >>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet, ah
>>>>>>> >>>> well
>>>>>>> >>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". The
>>>>>>> >>>> Sound
>>>>>>> >>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think it
>>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>>> >>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page of
>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>> >>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a 
>>>>>>> >>>> while
>>>>>>> >>>> since
>>>>>>> >>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced 
>>>>>>> >>>> either.
>>>>>>> >>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features
>>>>>>> >>>> available
>>>>>>> >>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors 
>>>>>>> >>>>> onboard.
>>>>>>> >>>>> There's
>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking
>>>>>>> >>>>> about
>>>>>>> >>>>> simple
>>>>>>> >>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to
>>>>>>> >>>>> understand
>>>>>>> >>>>> and set
>>>>>>> >>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins
>>>>>>> >>>>> hands
>>>>>>> >>>>> down.
>>>>>>> >>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any
>>>>>>> >>>>> piece
>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>>> software
>>>>>>> >>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss
>>>>>>> >>>>> reduction
>>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its 
>>>>>>> >>>>> manual
>>>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>> >>>>> difficult
>>>>>>> >>>>> to use with speech.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than I
>>>>>>> >>>>> probably
>>>>>>> >>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance,
>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge
>>>>>>> >>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited from
>>>>>>> >>>>> what
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly sure,
>>>>>>> >>>>> nor
>>>>>>> >>>>> am I
>>>>>>> >>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing with
>>>>>>> >>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>> >>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but none
>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is
>>>>>>> >>>>> worth
>>>>>>> >>>>> its hefty
>>>>>>> >>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded
>>>>>>> >>>>> file,
>>>>>>> >>>>> such as
>>>>>>> >>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and
>>>>>>> >>>>> extraneous
>>>>>>> >>>>> noise,
>>>>>>> >>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in this
>>>>>>> >>>>> group
>>>>>>> >>>>> can do
>>>>>>> >>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I 
>>>>>>> >>>>> can
>>>>>>> >>>>> edit a
>>>>>>> >>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly
>>>>>>> >>>>> while
>>>>>>> >>>>> using Sound
>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio
>>>>>>> >>>>> restoration
>>>>>>> >>>>> feature
>>>>>>> >>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to 
>>>>>>> >>>>> an
>>>>>>> >>>>> entire file.
>>>>>>> >>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not
>>>>>>> >>>>> getting
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>>> most from the program.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own a
>>>>>>> >>>>> copy,
>>>>>>> >>>>> but to
>>>>>>> >>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my 
>>>>>>> >>>>> first
>>>>>>> >>>>> audio editor
>>>>>>> >>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would
>>>>>>> >>>>> choose
>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Larry
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>>>>>>> >>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>> >>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave & 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> SoundForge?,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and
>>>>>>> >>>>>> which
>>>>>>> >>>>>> is more
>>>>>>> >>>>>> speech friendly?,
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
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