On 5/5/2016 7:40 AM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
Many of the changes that we previously tried to introduce were often
squashed by internal disagreements. Resulting discussions often turned
toxic quickly and led to nothing being done to address the issues.
Setting up the LEDE project was our way of creating a testbed for
changes that we believe are important for the survival of the project.
Change is not easy. Discussions need to happen. The problem is simply
kicking out people you didn't agree with by starting a new organization
in secret; you've created the public perception that we're somehow
against you when really we all want the same things.
A critical part of many of these debates was the fact that people who
were controlling critical pieces of the infrastructure flat out
refused to allow other people to step up and help, even in the face of
being unable to deal with important issues themselves in a timely
manner. This kind of single-point-of-failure thing has been going on
for years, with no significant progress on resolving it. In the LEDE
project we decided to significantly simplify the infrastructure and
spread out admin access enough to minimize the chance of this
situation ever happening again.
While we have pushed for and actively worked on decentralizing the
infrastructure, we were also frequently asked to move back to
centralizing things again.
The excessive downtime of the main site this year is a good example of
why we definitely don't want to go that way.
I'll let Kaloz address this personally.
Do you think we can get the changes outlined by the LEDE project
implement in OpenWrt? If so, how?
We can start by having an actual conversation between the two groups.
I'm not against what LEDE was trying to accomplish, but I am against how
it was done.
We appreciate your effort to have an open discussion about this,
however the sudden deletion of our widely published openwrt.org email
addresses somewhat undermines this. We will not respond in kind and we
will continue to maintain the critical parts of OpenWrt infrastructure
that we control.
Let's be clear on this subject; no commit access was revoked, you still
have full read and write access to the entire OpenWrt tree.
Email forwarding was temporarily disabled following the LEDE announcement
- LEDE's own rules prohibit project based email addresses
- It's unclear if LEDE still represents OpenWrt
My hope is that this whole LEDE vs OpenWrt situation can be resolved.
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