Dear devs,

on Fri Jun 13 21:57:24 CEST 2008, Conrad Hirano wrote:
> Sorry, I didn't mean to offend or insult you and the other developers.  
> I realize you all have lives and are busy, and I sincerely appreciate  
> the time and effort you have all spent in developing OpenWRT. It's  
> just a bit frustrating to submit a patch and get no response, only to  
> see the identical patch submitted a few weeks later and committed in a  
> day. It's hard not to feel the original patch went to the great bit  
> bucket in the sky for whatever reason.

I know exactly what Conrad is talking about. I made a patch for vpnc in March; 
admittedly, it's not the most important package, and I would be glad to 
unsubscribe from the list and move on to other things. But after all, I made 
it so that others wouldn't have to replicate the work I did. So I'd like to 
get some kind of reassurance that it's really going to help and not be 
forgotten. Otherwise, I might not feel the urge to contribute to this project 
any longer. Especially if I have to go through the pain of reconfiguring my 
mail agent (which was a bit tricky) just to get the patch "accepted."

So I have been reading the list now for 3 months, waiting for any reaction to 
my patch. But nothing happened. Just to make clear what my position is: I'm 
not interested in all the gory development details of OpenWRT (although I 
really, really appreciate your efforts). I'm just scanning the list in order 
not to miss comments on my patch, and I begin to get tired of it.

Can we get to some conclusion as to what the procedure would be for an 
occasional contributor like me _after_ submitting a patch to the list? Maybe 
a submission to the bug tracking system would be more useful? Or can we be 
reassured that you won't forget about it? I mean, do you developers really go 
back through the mailing list archives looking for patches that haven't been 
included yet?

I agree that developers are only humans, and sometimes things just have to 
wait. But I'm human, too. I don't think you can expect from me to bug you on 
a regular basis just to get some unsignificant (but useful) patch applied. At 
least, that's my current understanding of what we're supposed to do.

It would probably already help if we could get some faint idea of how the devs 
manage incoming patches. Perhaps one or two additional sentences on 
https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/SubmittingPatches would suffice.

Thanks,

Johannes.
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