Hmmmm, If I was OpenStack product manager I'd probably consider this a 
strategic rather than tactical project-organization conversation.

Jan Drake


> From: chris.bohan...@rackspace.com
> To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:57:21 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Satellite
> 
> I think one benefit would be a greater breadth of contributors to OpenStack. 
> As far as I know, the core components are written in python and this could 
> limit the number of contributors to OpenStack outside of Swift, Glance, and 
> etc. This probably isn't the best example but what about a logging service 
> that does more than syslog or log4j or a rate limiting service used with core 
> components. Services that are outside of the core but still of use to the 
> core that is language independent. An OpenStack contributor could submit a 
> blueprint to OpenStack - Satellite and the implementation could be in Ruby or 
> some other language. To me, this goes back to the breadth of contributors to 
> the OpenStack ecosystem.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openstack-bounces+chris.bohannon=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net 
> [mailto:openstack-bounces+chris.bohannon=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net] 
> On Behalf Of Jan Drake
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:31 PM
> To: John Dickinson
> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Satellite
> 
> Doesn't make sense to me... satellite projects are typically integration 
> projects around a core not sets of dependencies for a core.
> 
> Perhaps I am missing something?
> 
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:47 PM, John Dickinson <m...@not.mn> wrote:
> 
> > What benefits does an openstack-satellite project bring? Other than all 
> > using some openstack component, what do these projects have in common that 
> > justifies grouping them? For example, I know of many open source projects 
> > that use swift (swauth, slogging, cyberduck, all the rackspace language 
> > bindings, several iOS apps, a few dashboards), and I can't seem to see why 
> > they would benefit by being grouped into one umbrella.
> > 
> > --John
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 27, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Matt Colton wrote:
> > 
> >> This is another one of the sessions I'd like to see more support behind. 
> >> There is a lot of development going on around services that consume as 
> >> well as leverage the Openstack core. I think a place like this can help 
> >> benefit in the development of the outside projects and allow a place for 
> >> these discussions without polluting too much discussion here in the Core 
> >> mailing list.
> >> 
> >> From: openstack-bounces+matt.colton=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net 
> >> [openstack-bounces+matt.colton=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net] on 
> >> behalf of Bryan Taylor [btay...@rackspace.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 AM
> >> To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
> >> Subject: [Openstack] OpenStack Satellite
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I just saw Chris Bohannon's talk at the design conference regarding 
> >> OpenStack Satellite. This is an area for projects that are not part of the 
> >> OpenStack CORE, but instead that simply support it:
> >> http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/3
> >> 
> >> I think this is an important idea. There's a lot of stuff that can be 
> >> designed to "work with" OpenStack that isn't essential to the notion of a 
> >> cloud and so shouldn't be part of the core. There should be a place to put 
> >> such things. I can see this being the route to generate a lot of code 
> >> contributions as people try to contribute on the boundaries. I hope people 
> >> will support this idea.
> >> 
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