I think one benefit would be a greater breadth of contributors to OpenStack. As 
far as I know, the core components are written in python and this could limit 
the number of contributors to OpenStack outside of Swift, Glance, and etc. This 
probably isn't the best example but what about a logging service that does more 
than syslog or log4j or a rate limiting service used with core components. 
Services that are outside of the core but still of use to the core that is 
language independent. An OpenStack contributor could submit a blueprint to 
OpenStack - Satellite and the implementation could be in Ruby or some other 
language. To me, this goes back to the breadth of contributors to the OpenStack 
ecosystem.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:openstack-bounces+chris.bohannon=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net] On 
Behalf Of Jan Drake
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:31 PM
To: John Dickinson
Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Satellite

Doesn't make sense to me... satellite projects are typically integration 
projects around a core not sets of dependencies for a core.

Perhaps I am missing something?


Jan




On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:47 PM, John Dickinson <m...@not.mn> wrote:

> What benefits does an openstack-satellite project bring? Other than all using 
> some openstack component, what do these projects have in common that 
> justifies grouping them? For example, I know of many open source projects 
> that use swift (swauth, slogging, cyberduck, all the rackspace language 
> bindings, several iOS apps, a few dashboards), and I can't seem to see why 
> they would benefit by being grouped into one umbrella.
> 
> --John
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Matt Colton wrote:
> 
>> This is another one of the sessions I'd like to see more support behind. 
>> There is a lot of development going on around services that consume as well 
>> as leverage the Openstack core. I think a place like this can help benefit 
>> in the development of the outside projects and allow a place for these 
>> discussions without polluting too much discussion here in the Core mailing 
>> list.
>> 
>> From: openstack-bounces+matt.colton=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net 
>> [openstack-bounces+matt.colton=rackspace....@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf 
>> of Bryan Taylor [btay...@rackspace.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 AM
>> To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
>> Subject: [Openstack] OpenStack Satellite
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just saw Chris Bohannon's talk at the design conference regarding 
>> OpenStack Satellite. This is an area for projects that are not part of the 
>> OpenStack CORE, but instead that simply support it:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/3
>> 
>> I think this is an important idea. There's a lot of stuff that can be 
>> designed to "work with" OpenStack that isn't essential to the notion of a 
>> cloud and so shouldn't be part of the core. There should be a place to put 
>> such things. I can see this being the route to generate a lot of code 
>> contributions as people try to contribute on the boundaries. I hope people 
>> will support this idea.
>> 
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